okay so today was my day to take three very sweet and lovable older sisters out in early morning fs.. our territory was to visit those in nursing homes who had showed interest or were in need of 'encouragement' (by request only of course).
it is here that an interesting conversation occurred between the sisters and a very old (nearly 100) oldtimer jw.. he was very discouraged but yet encouraged with the generations change but wanted to discuss covenants.. specifically the abrahamic coventant and how it was 2000 or so years from then to christ and how we should be encouraged to ponder the fulfillment of christ's return either in 2030-2033.......... he referenced da judges "jehovah" book as confirmation that the slave had once touched on the subject....... none of the sisters objected to his musings nor remarked deeper once we left.. this is the first i have heard such talk in the jw world....... is anyone else hearing this kinda rationale?.
opinions..... .
It never has been important to the JWs that the bible says that even the SON doesnt know the day or the hour. Apparently the SON is too stupid to do numerology eh? Or maybe ask his DAD when the time is going to be. All this time all Jesus had to do was ask the Witnesses.
Doi !!!
not sure if this has been posted yet.
very disturbing.
it looks like our canadian friends to the north are not immune to the increase in crime.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekgdrnjqs0s.
lolol thats as bad as those two morons who were trying to escape yesterday and handcuffed to each other and went OPPOSITE WAYS around a pole and collided LOLOLOL!
it seems to be an issue that some have after leaving the witness cult because none of us were ever made to feel we were " good " enough or "valued " enough for what we were trying to accomplish in the cult.
growing up i had pounded into my head by my jw elder father what jesus said, " after doing all things remember you are good for nothing slaves , what we have done is what we ought to have done.
" then i thought to myself - " where's the joy in that ?
I was NOT a JW the first 30 years of my life and to suddenly be living in a fish bowl environment, where the women were subservient and silenced, yet expected to do the hall cleaning, the majority of the field service and NEVER allowed to teach the males...I began to feel like a loaded spring...being pushed down and pushed down and pushed down until I was about to explode.
I had just come off a really abusive marriage where the man kept me secluded from my friends and family and controlled my every move and treated me like chattel...and here I was jumping out of the pan and into the fire.
I was on the way out for 11 years...it took ELEVEN YEARS to free myself from that emotional baggage and bondage.
Once you are out you need to fill the space with something else. You cant just leave the hole there. Reteach yourself your worth. Volunteer places, hold babies in ICU, or read to kids at the library. Teach someone to speak English or go to a retirement home....you will see your worth and the love others will have for you grow exponentially.
here lately, i have just been wishing that i could just fast-forward through my remaining years on earth and just die to get this nonsense all over with.. i have only myself to blame.
if i had gone through with my attempt to leave this hokey religion about sixteen years ago when i attempted to--before i got married and had kids--then maybe i wouldn't be teetering on the very slippery edge of sanity.
instead i punked out, buckled under the threats of shunning and guilt of abandoning family members, and so here i am--looking into the mirror every morning wondering when the nightmare is going to end.
Im so sorry. Really I am SOOO sorry. How old are your kids? Are they all baptized?
There is no getting this cult out of our lives as long as we have relatives in. Spouses in is exponentially WORSE. Continue to tune out in meetings. Plug in an iPod if you need to to stay sane. They cant disfellowship you for not going to meetings.
Is there anything you can do to build yourself up? Online college courses or something to deviate yourself from this nightmare?
hugs, LD
i just recieved a call that a man about my age is dying .
he has cancer .
anyway my mom works for his mom and he is her only living child.
I stopped blaming God for everything. It made no sense in the long run. It was all too random to be controlled or "a judgement" or whatever. My 44 year old sister in law died a couple years ago of pancreatic cancer. She was a devout, God loving, wonderful mother, director of the choirs...loving wife...no reason why God would let her suffer and have to leave her very young children like that. And the reason is because He didnt. He doesnt have a hand in our diseases, our suffering, our good things, our bad things, our luck or lack thereof.
Every time I see an athlete from the winning team kissing their fingers and gesturing to God as if God himself gave him that touchdown or victory...I cringe. Oh please. We are alone down here. God created us...set us spinning out here. And that was it. His involvement stopped there. I hate that I have come to that conclusion, but nothing else makes sense.
Im soooooo sorry your friend is suffering as will his family with this illness.
study articles have strong counsel against apostates - modern day apostates display characteristics similar to those of the devil.
their mind may be poisoned by a critical attitude towards individuals in the congregations , christian elders or the governing body.
some apostates oppose the use of the divine name , jehovah.
The WTS is just playing to what the masses want to hear. Its another cross section of humanity they can rope in with false hopes. I still think their drivel is what got Prince involved.
I know thats how they got my Downs sister in law sucked in...they keep telling her that in the New System she wont be retarded any more and she will be able to get married and have babies which is what the sweet one has always wanted.
what treasures are in your collection?
what album artwork do you like, inside and out, on the sleeves, and in the booklets?.
I gave all of mine to a JW to sell in her garage sale because she needed rent money...or so she said. She never sold them she KEPT THEM. And I was pisssssssed royal.
I suggested she return them to me since she did not use them for the intended purpose and she laughed. Jerk.
with the watchtower study about helping 'lost sheep' return, i have been half expecting a visit.
i have mentally rehearsed how i should handle the situation, which is fairly tricky as i still have family in.
but no call yet.
You know...anybody who hasnt been living under a rock for the last 15 years, knows you can find damn near anybody on the internet if you REALLY wanted to find them.
That whole "worried about threats to spirituality" is just an excuse NOT to go talk to "lost ones". The elders dont want to go do this. They dont want to do this any more than most of us really wanted to talk to people out in service. They just DONT WANT to do it.
well, we in southern okla. are finally getting freezing rain.
i hate it.
how are things in your neck of the woods?.
Boy...and I thought hurricane alley down here was the only place you needed generators! Remember kids...dont use them in your garage or on your patio...they emit carbon monoxide.
Good luck to you guys....stay safe!
...that my only sister shuns me????.
sorry but i feel so miserable and i miss her enormously:-(.
it hurts when i write her (e-mail, letters, sms) but she doesn't reply.
Hey Newborn. It is painful. Its cruel. Its the Watchtower. I guarantee you our family members would be back to us if the WTS said shunning was "a conscience matter" and there was no penalty or retribution for not shunning exJW family. No doubt about it. If the Society would just get the HELL outta our personal business!
My advice to you is to continue to write to her. Dont talk about religion. Keep writing to her about your life and your love for her and memories and things you are doing. I bet money she loves hearing from you. Use it like it was a blog. You can pretend to be talking to her. It might make it easier. Dont expect an answer from her...but dont play their game either. She is still your sister honey. They cant take that away from you.
hugs, LD
