Posts by WuzLovesDubs

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So I Finally Got My Invitation...

by darkl1ght3r in

...to the district convention.

hand deliverd by the drama director himself, who also happens to be my uncle.

i even got my very own copy of the 'how can you survive the end of the world?

WuzLovesDubs

What IS that with them anyway? The rest of mankind, if you ask somebody if they want to go to a party and they say no...you STOP ASKING. But the Dubs oh NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo they have to continually beat you over the head to MAKE you go or until you cry UNCLE and they do this why??? because they are "saving you" or are you just one helluva embarrament to the family...the rogue Dub...that they cant STAND isnt being controlled like them.

Misery looooooooooooves company. "Here is your invite Dark. You damn well better go listen to this drivel if WE have to!" Yes its moving...it has the same moving affect on me as castor oil.

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this is a thread to anull our baptisium...

by highdose in

i'll start:.

the borg makes a big deal out of the fact that everyone choses of their own free choice to be baptised, so on that same basis i see no reason why i can't chose to anul it.. i highdose here by anull my baptisium to the borg on the basis that:1) i had been both brain washed and pressured in to doing it 2) i did not understand what i was joining 3) i was a child 4) i never said my baptismal vows anyway 4)had i waited till i was adult i would never have gotten baptised.. therefore my baptisum is invaild ( not worth the paper its written on so to speak) i never was a jw, i'm not now and i don't intend to be ever in the future.. ...there that feels alot better!

would anyone care to join me?.

WuzLovesDubs

jwf - according to Spike that was all it took for him not to be baptized. He couldnt say yes to the "first question". So perhaps there is hope?

Nah...we can protest all day long and they will say "well you went in service didnt you? you went to meetings didnt you? You have implied consent and acknowledgement of the contract...which WE will deny exists if you do something embarrassing in public. "

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No One to Carry On!

by AK - Jeff in

i recall the 'core' families that made up our little congregation in the 60's and 70's.

i had not thought about it, but the very vast majority of those families have left zero members carrying on the 'legacy' of the 'troof'.

here is the way it breaks down - the names have been changed to protect the innocent [or guilty].. the colsons in 1970 - dad, mom and two sons.

WuzLovesDubs

The only way there is ANY growth in this organization is self perpetuation. And kids of JWs being baptized. We KNOW the baptismal numbers are down and the door to door work is a joke and a half...and it takes what...like a year and a half of study time for ONE recruit? I honestly dont think their published numbers reflect anywhere NEAR accurately the number of people still in this organization unless they are including anyone who is still NOT officially DAd or DFd and still on the roles, whether they are active or attend or never been seen again.

I reeeeeally dont see how there is ANY growth possible. They dont have anything to offer.

Yizuman did you know this?

by WuzLovesDubs in

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friends

i am referring to the final line in this ad.

the whole nwt bible in asl??

thats just crazy.

WuzLovesDubs

I am referring to the final line in this ad. The whole NWT BIBLE in ASL?? Thats just CRAZY.

Date: Weekly Ongoing Bible EducationName of Event: Chicago Sign Language Congregation of Jehovah's WitnessesWhere: 150 E. 124th Place, Chicago, IL 60628Time: Every Saturday 11:00 a.m., Every Tuesday 7:30 p.m.Description of Benefits, Attractions: All meetings are presented in sign language. Deaf/blind interpreting provided.Admission Fee: Free
Contact for Information: [email protected] Other Comments: We provide a variety of instructional Bible DVDs in ASL. Popular titles available are:

"What Does the Bible Really Teach?"

"My Book of Bible Stories"

"Worship the Only True God"

"The Greatest Man Who Ever Lived"

"You Can Be God's Friend"

"What Does God Require of Us?"

In addition, soon the entire Bible will be available in ASL on DVD!

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Did you leave because of Family's Doubting thoughts?

by homeschool in

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friends

i've recently finished steven hassan's releasing the bonds...will probably read it again.

i was just wondering, were you, at one point, on the jw side & had a non-jw family member do what steven hassan suggests?

did it work?

WuzLovesDubs

I was soooooo into this when I first came in at age 29. It was so "logical" and I really didnt have any Bible knowledge to refute anything so naturally since they "proved" everything they said with a scripture it HAD to be the troof. But then after beating my family over the head with it for a long time, my sister finally said ENOUGH!! And banned me from seeing her, her kids, her husband EVER as long as I was a JW! That included writing, or seeing them at school or ANY form of communication.

It was devastating to me. I went four years without her in my life and it caused me to sit down and rethink what I had gotten myself into and if it was WORTH losing my family for. And I did just that...I hit the internet. I hit the library and I researched this group that I SHOULD have researched before joining but in 1984 there was no internet and nobody told me who the EXJWs were so I could talk to THEM you know.

And my eyes flew open! I sent my sister a fax and told her I had DAd and asked her forgiveness if she didnt want to see me again, I would understand after what I put them through...but she sent me back a fax and welcomed me back with open arms. And with restrictions and a wait and see clause...but there is NOTHING on the planet that I would allow to come between us again.

The JWs have lost site of what love is.

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Greetings....

by Girlie in

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just wanted to say hello to all here.

i really don't have much of a story to tell about myself.

just find myself at a crossroads of sorts and wondering if i should stay or move on, although the greater part is telling me to move on.. long story short, i have been a baptised jw for 14 years.

WuzLovesDubs

Welcome Girlie! Oh girl...we all have BEEN where you are (except maybe Spike who is "out standing in his own field" someplace and not a JW but wanting to be one) And its a complicated situation that NOBODY who isnt or wasnt a JW can understand. In fact when you try to explain it to people they think you gotta be making this stuff up because nobody is that crazy....or less loving...than JWs can be.

My mother in law, for instance, found the JWs when her kids were very young in the 70s and dragged them all to the hall (5 of them then) for many years until they were old enough to make a decision for themselves. Three got baptized, and two of them bolted for the door. She subsequently lost her marriage over her involvement with the JWs too. She remarried a JW elder. During her stint as a JW, she told me she would pray daily for her nonJW children to either come into the Truth or to DIE so that they would get a ressurection!! She prayed for her own kids to DIE! I was stunned by that but thats how deeply she believed what she was into. And as a JW myself I understood it...until it all started to shred in front of my eyes in 1996. I DAd in 97. (Crisis of Conscience was the nail in THAT coffin) So my mother in law who immediately started to shun me when I DAd was being pounded with anti-JW from her nonJW daughter for many years...and finally something got through to her. She became a born again, and left the JWs. She DAd because they told her if she didnt they would DF her. She wouldnt give them the opportunity so she DAd. But in doing so she realized with horror all those years she had been praying for her kids to DIE for the sake of this sham of a religion and now her baptized children that she struggled to get INTO the Truth...are now shunning her! She was damned if she did and damned if she didnt.

The religion has destroyed this family...torn it apart. And there will be no peace for the 6.7 million people INSIDE or the millions upon millions they are shunning...until the Society is destroyed and their bondage released.

My best friend in the JWs, even though she was having an affair with a married elder, told me she would have to shun me when I DAd because I was bad association. She brought her own parents and her only sibling into the organization too just before I DAd. So I lost her...but she was not going to leave because her whole family is still in and she PUT them there. But yet...she looks down her adulterous nose at ME as being not good enough to be around. How twisted is all this??

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When will they realise that the bus isn't coming?

by eyeslice in

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i was still a kid and living at home at the time, and so that must have been well over 30 years ago, that i heard ron drage (now a senior member of the uk bethel) say "if you are waiting at the bus stop it, is better to be 10 minutes early rather than miss it".

what he was referring to of course was the then then 1975 issue; in other words armageddon has arrived yet but it just round the corner and we are a little early for it.. i don't know what brought this to my mind the other day but i got to thinking, surely if you are waiting for a bus and you get there 10 minutes early and it doesn't then turn up, how long do you wait?

10 minutes, 15 minutes, half an hour, an hour, two hours?

WuzLovesDubs

Why cant they just rid themselves of that whole waiting thing? It serves absolutely no purpose. Why not just bring people to Christ like Christians are supposed to do during their lives on THIS side of whateverinhellarmageddonis? Eliminate all the anxiety, all the waiting, all the speculation, all the sacrificing of education, bearing children, taking promotions, building homes? Why not let people LIVE? They bring this on themselves.

You might as well hand a JW a coin that says "See other side" on BOTH SIDES OF IT...and then stand there and watch them flip it...forever.

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MY APOLOGIES TO ALL

by Mary in

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friends

looking back over the last few weeks, i think i've been unnessarily rude to some posters and i just want to apologize to anyone who has been on the receiving end of my anger recently.. i believe that i'm so angry, dismayed, devastated and heartbroken over what's happening to my brother in law, that i've been taking it out on others and that's not right.

it makes absolutely no difference what i think of the wts as a whole, or whether or not americans have a universal healthcare system......none of that makes any difference whatsoever when someone you love and has been like your brother for 35 years is dying and there's not a fucking thing we can do about it.. my sister just called me and there's more bad news, and that's that his disease has now progressed into the acute myeloid leukemia which means he cannot start the therapy they were going to give him, as this is far more serious now.

they want to start chemo right away, but his blood counts aren't up high enough for him to survive.

WuzLovesDubs

Mary, I was struck by what you said about finding that book in their nightstand. When my grandfather had cancer, he had it a very long time. He had smoked most of his life and had a laryngectomy done in the late 60s and in the 70s it was spreading to his lungs. But he was ornry and nasty to my grandmother. She was blind and mostly deaf so they couldnt communicate. He would move furniture so she would trip and tried to spend all of his money so she wouldnt have any when he died. I found an entire closet full of still wrapped pajamas and socks from Sears that he spent money on from a catalog (that was in 1972) and tools he never intended to use. But when he finally passed away in 1975, I was cleaning out his house so we could sell it (grandma move in with my mom) and found dozens of little crosses, prayer books, notepads he had written prayers on, pictures of Jesus...and could feel how desperate he was to live. They were all over the house. He never went to church, never mentioned prayers or Jesus or God or anything ever as long as I had known the man. So from what he saw as his foxhole, he was reaching out to God in ways he never had before. I went from being angry at him to feeling very very sorry for the torment he must have been going through not only physically but in his heart.

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MY APOLOGIES TO ALL

by Mary in

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friends

looking back over the last few weeks, i think i've been unnessarily rude to some posters and i just want to apologize to anyone who has been on the receiving end of my anger recently.. i believe that i'm so angry, dismayed, devastated and heartbroken over what's happening to my brother in law, that i've been taking it out on others and that's not right.

it makes absolutely no difference what i think of the wts as a whole, or whether or not americans have a universal healthcare system......none of that makes any difference whatsoever when someone you love and has been like your brother for 35 years is dying and there's not a fucking thing we can do about it.. my sister just called me and there's more bad news, and that's that his disease has now progressed into the acute myeloid leukemia which means he cannot start the therapy they were going to give him, as this is far more serious now.

they want to start chemo right away, but his blood counts aren't up high enough for him to survive.

WuzLovesDubs

no need to apologize darlin....

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Why don't you just take it like a man?

by AK - Jeff in

in a recent thread, i was basically called out in this manner.. here is part of the quote:.

mean no disrespect with the following but i have to ask, when you disassociated yourself what did you think would happen?

did you expect witnesses to suddenly change to accommodate you?

WuzLovesDubs

Ironically this was sent to me by a JW.... but it seemed appropriate to the topic :)

Little John the Baptist Matt. 18:4-5 "Therefore, whoever humbles himself like this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
And who ever welcomes a little child like this in my name welcomes me. "

Johnny's Mother looked out the window and noticed Him "playing church" with their cat . He had the cat sitting quietly and he was preaching to it. She smiled and went about her work.
A while later she heard loud meowing and hissing and ran back To the open window to see Johnny baptizing the cat in a tub of water.
She called out, "Johnny, stop that! The cat is afraid of water!"
Johnny looked up at her and said,
"He should have thought about that before he joined my church."