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  Pshycos! - 2016 "Remain Loyal to Jehovah" Regional Convention Program

  by thedepressedsoul in

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  wow this is interesting!

  i think how much emphasis this puts on "loyalty" shows their is an issue.

  they're trying to plug the wholes as much and quickly as possible.

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  thedepressedsoul

  How many fucki*ng repetitions of words!!!!!!!!!
  Be Loyal, as Jesus Was – When Tired
  WTF?

  hahaha! I laughed for a good minute when I read your post. I guess the guy on reddit made a spelling error.
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  Pshycos! - 2016 "Remain Loyal to Jehovah" Regional Convention Program

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  wow this is interesting!

  i think how much emphasis this puts on "loyalty" shows their is an issue.

  they're trying to plug the wholes as much and quickly as possible.

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  thedepressedsoul

  To paraphrase rebel8,
  Cult cult cultedy cult
  Or....let's review.........

  Am I the only one blown away by the talk titles? I think the word cult isn't enough! I'm completely shocked they would print this!

  If the talk titles are anything to go off of, I have a feeling this Child abuse issue is about to get blown wide into the open.
  
  
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  They want to get rid of "anointed ones" - It's getting clear

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i've never met a group that turns on it's members like the jw's.

  sister faithful that thinks she's anointed is now bat shit crazy with mental illness.

  we all have known it's true, but now you have the wt, who put it in everyone's head that you can be anointed.

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  thedepressedsoul

  I've never met a group that turns on it's members like the JW's. Sister faithful that thinks she's anointed is now bat shit crazy with mental illness. We all have known it's true, but now you have the WT, who put it in everyone's head that you can be anointed. They are now calling the very ones it taught about it, mentally ill.

  It seems to me that they want to get rid of anointed ones, besides those at the top. Read through this months study WT if you can bare it. I get the impression they want your average anointed in a KH, gone.

  The first big show was when they took any power from the anointed by making only the top 7 the "Faithful and discreet slave". They stripped the anointed of any extra swing they may have in the KH.

  Just do away with it already and stop turning on your members in every way!
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  Pshycos! - 2016 "Remain Loyal to Jehovah" Regional Convention Program

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  wow this is interesting!

  i think how much emphasis this puts on "loyalty" shows their is an issue.

  they're trying to plug the wholes as much and quickly as possible.

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  thedepressedsoul

  Do Not Imitate Disloyal Ones – AdamDo Not Imitate Disloyal Ones – AbsalomDo Not Imitate Disloyal Ones – SolomonDo Not Imitate Disloyal Ones – Judas Iscariot
  ...Names that witnesses we know will be applying to us in their minds as they hear this part SMH

  I've never seen a convention like this! This is legit-ally crazy! All conventions have had some bat-shit crazy parts but this one is above and beyond!

  Everything is on loyalty lately. I can't but think this is them trying to counteract all the media coverage lately.
  
  
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  Pshycos! - 2016 "Remain Loyal to Jehovah" Regional Convention Program

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  wow this is interesting!

  i think how much emphasis this puts on "loyalty" shows their is an issue.

  they're trying to plug the wholes as much and quickly as possible.

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  thedepressedsoul

  Wow this is interesting! I think how much emphasis this puts on "loyalty" shows their is an issue. They're trying to plug the wholes as much and quickly as possible. There must be a lot of people not showing "loyalty" if they have to go this hard on a whole convention.

  I'm not going to lie, you hand this to the public and they will think you're bat shit crazy as they read through it.

  I also find it very, very interesting that they use the word "Shun". On JW.org they dance around it and use everything but that word. Are they finally embracing and being open that they do, in fact, shun? It's funny how they put that on Friday's program when the public rarely attends that day. Mainly just die-hard JW's on Friday.

  It's concerning that they put unrepentant wrongdoers at the end of shun. They are wording it more and more that way. No longer do you have to be DF to be shunned. They are now targeting any unrepentant wrongdoer. They're coming for you inactive ones!

  I fear for inactive ones. They are slowly going after you and really going after you with this convention. One, they are trying to re-recruit you with Saturdays talk. Aka, find out what you have been up to.

  From Reddit:

  Official Source: www.jw.org/en/publications/books/2016-Convention-Program/

  The program features the following interesting talk titles:

  FRIDAY

  1. Chairman's Address: Jehovah Deserves "Undivided Loyalty"
  2. Maintain Loyalty in – Thought!
  3. Maintain Loyalty in – Word!
  4. Maintain Loyalty in – Action!
  5. DRAMATIC BIBLE READING: "Who Is on Jehovah's Side?"
  6. Jehovah's "Loyal Love Is Better Than Life"
  7. Be Loyal, as Jesus Was – When Young
  8. Be Loyal, as Jesus Was – When Persecuted
  9. Be Loyal, as Jesus Was – When Tempted
  10. Be Loyal, as Jesus Was – When Praised
  11. Be Loyal, as Jesus Was – When Tired
  12. Be Loyal, as Jesus Was – When Abandoned
  13. Be Loyal, as Jesus Was – When Facing Death
  14. Loyally Uphold Jehovah's Judgements – Hate What Jehovah Hates
  15. Loyally Uphold Jehovah's Judgements – Shun Unreptentant Wrongdoers
  16. Loyally Uphold Jehovah's Judgements – Be Forgiving
  17. Loyalty—Part of the New Personality
  18. How Christ's Loyalty as High Priest Helps Us

  SATURDAY

  1. Helping Others to Become Loyal to Jehovah – Unbelieving Mates
  2. Helping Others to Become Loyal to Jehovah – Former Bible Students
  3. Helping Others to Become Loyal to Jehovah – Inactive Ones
  4. Helping Others to Become Loyal to Jehovah – Relatives
  5. Do Not Imitate Disloyal Ones – Adam
  6. Do Not Imitate Disloyal Ones – Absalom
  7. Do Not Imitate Disloyal Ones – Solomon
  8. Do Not Imitate Disloyal Ones – Judas Iscariot
  9. Imitate Loyal Ones – Ruth
  10. Imitate Loyal Ones – David
  11. Imitate Loyal Ones – Hushai
  12. Imitate Loyal Ones – Shiprah and Puah
  13. BAPTISM: Never Abandon Your Loyal Love for Jehovah
  14. Lessons on Loyalty From the Book of Job – Loyal Despite Direct Attacks
  15. Lessons on Loyalty From the Book of Job – Loyal Despite Subtle Attacks
  16. Lessons on Loyalty From the Book of Job – What We Learn From Natural Forces
  17. Lessons on Loyalty From the Book of Job – What the Animal Creation Teaches Us
  18. DRAMA: "Hope for What We Do Not See"
  19. Keep Waiting Eagerly With Endurance!

  SUNDAY

  1. Avoid What Erodes Loyalty – Pride
  2. Avoid What Erodes Loyalty – Improper Entertainment
  3. Avoid What Erodes Loyalty – Bad Associations
  4. Avoid What Erodes Loyalty – Fear of Man
  5. Pursue What Builds Loyalty – Appreciation
  6. Pursue What Builds Loyalty – Self-Control
  7. Pursue What Builds Loyalty – Love
  8. Pursue What Builds Loyalty – Faith
  9. PUBLIC BIBLE DISCOURSE: When Will Loyal Love Triumph Over Hatred?
  10. Summary of The Watchtower
  11. DRAMA: "O Jehovah, ... I Trust In You"
  12. Jehovah Will Treat His Loyal One in a Special Way

  One cannot escape the conclusion that this is a convention for the members, not for the public.
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  Sophie gives even more than ice cream money to the WT

  by OrphanCrow in

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  thedepressedsoul

  Wait is this for real or photo shopped?

  I would never let me child do this!
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  What is the alternative to JW?

  by Formerbrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

  im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

  the the bible is word?

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  thedepressedsoul

  depressed soul,
  Sounds like you are looking for answers. You sound a little depressed.
  Could I interest you in a free bible study?

  You know, now that you mentioned it, I have always wondered what does the bible really teach. Do you know of anything that could help me with that?
  
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  What is the alternative to JW?

  by Formerbrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

  im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

  the the bible is word?

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  thedepressedsoul

  I mean this in the best way but I keep seeing this heading in the "Latest" section and it annoys me every time. Since it isn't going away anytime soon, I mine as well comment on it.

  Why does there have to be an "alternative" to JW? If you feel JW's don't have it, just go and live your life until something comes along that makes sense to you. Hopefully not another cult.

  This is my current stance. I don't think JW have it and I am OK not having all the answers right now. Frankly, I don't want the answers and I definitely don't want an alternative. I just want to live my life and enjoy my life the few years I get to spend on this planet.

  I've come to conclusion, until someone has a 100% proven answer, without a doubt, no "alternative" or thought is worth my time. I'm staying away from it all. If I die without the answers, without knowing exactly how or why we're here, I'm ok with that. Hey, I'll be dead, what will I know?

  Enjoy your life and for the love of God (no pun intended), stay away from any alternatives!
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  Making friends in the "truth"

  by Jordandemm in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what is it about making friends in the organisation am i the only one who had found it tough?

  don't get me wrong there was some good people but unfortunately there was also a lot of egotism, back stabbing, jealousy and gossiping.

  i could never really fit in any group, everytime i thought i had found a group it was as if i would be sidelined or ditched.

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  thedepressedsoul

  I'm not trying to brag but I never had this issue. Too many invites to have a weekend just at home.

  What I did find however, is that it took a lot longer to become "good friends" with a JW then a person in the world. You had to feel the person out and see "how far" you could joke with them before offending the person. Some of my closest JW friends happened when we realized we didn't need a barrier around each other and could have fun without worrying about offending each other.
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  I no longer feel smart as a JW, I feel dumb...

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i don't want anyone to take this the wrong way but i use to at least feel smart as a jw.

  when i went to thursday night meetings, i at least felt like i was a student, that i was learning how to speak publicly, i could prepare my own comments, i could answer points that i learned from the weekly bible reading.

  i even feel like an "idiot" studying for the meetings.

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  thedepressedsoul

  I don't want anyone to take this the wrong way but I use to at least feel smart as a JW. When I went to Thursday night meetings, I at least felt like I was a student, that I was learning how to speak publicly, I could prepare my own comments, I could answer points that I learned from the weekly bible reading. I felt like at the door, a JW could put up a fight.

  Anymore, I just feel like I'm being treated like an idiot, being a JW. I even feel like an "idiot" studying for the meetings.

  We had a meeting for field service recently. An old time brother lead the group. He prepared how to put up a defense if someone at the door questions a certain way our bible is translated. He pulled out the Kingdom Interlinear, showed how the Greek texts were written and how it was translated. I actually felt like it was something in depth for once! To my surprise, all morning I heard nothing but fellow JW's making fun of this brother. How "no one will actually argue with us at the door over that" or "he's an old timer". While they were true, it still shocked me. The old time brother may not even know that they are no longer printing that book. This brother spent his whole life, dedicated, just to be mocked for how in depth he used to study.

  The new Thursday nights is even worse! You no longer give what you learned from the bible reading. It's two pre-made answers followed by two specific questions. It's no longer what you found in your reading. The demos are now videos, in between demos it even says, "Take householder information" on the screen. They are such basic, and simple presentations. They even have to tell you to take information? I just feel dumb sitting there and when I prepare. The Watchtower has gotten even worse. I'm not even sure the point of it anymore. It's more about gloating about the organization and doctrine, then actually teaching you something. People just re-repeat the paragraph for their answers.

  Cart witnessing we're being taught not to get into any doctrine issues but to just focus on getting the individuals information and leaving him with literature. In door to door if someone argues, we just leave now.

  I don't believe this crap, I am stuck in and I feel like I am being treated like a pre-schooler with how they are setting everything up. Better yet, they tell you not to go to college... Can't say I'm feeling like I am getting the "best education" as they like to put it.

  Sorry for the rant!