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  Catch phrases used by the GB

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i read a comment on another thread that made me think of this topic.. how many catchphrases are used by the gb and organisation in an attempt to control or gain power or prevent questioning?

  feel free to list as many as you can think of!.

  i'll start:.

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  Not to forget those infamous words by Anthony Morris: "If you don't like what you're hearing, bring it up with Jehovah!"
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  40 years on - and still in Damage Control mode!

  by Bungi Bill in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  earlier this morning, i posted off to the the institute of engineers an application for membership as an "engineering associate":.

  - today being just over 40 years since the congregation's retards elders made me abandon my apprenticeship.. (in this part of the world, the pre-1975 hype was taken to that level.

  not being content to prevent young persons attending university, they went one step further and treated with hostility any youngster who would "tie up five years of their lives" by entering into an apprenticeship.

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  Good on ya, mate! Better late then never! =)
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  Sikh man removes turban to help bleeding child

  by konceptual99 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i think the lesson on the blood issue in this story is obvious.. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/hero-sikh-man-breaks-strict-5711701.

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  JW's fail to understand the true meaning of Matthew 12: 1-13

  As Jesus said, he wants mercy, NOT sacrifice! Any death due to refusal of a blood transfusion is nothing more than a meaningless sacrifice

  Furthermore, blood is a symbol of life, NOT life! By refusing to accept a life-saving blood transfusion, JW's elevate the symbol of life to be more important than life itself, which is totally wrong!

  I don't believe in the Sikh religion, but congrats to this man for using common sense to do what is right
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  Excuses to miss the meeting that won't raise suspicion of a fade

  by kairos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the first step to fading is to begin missing the meetings.. "if" anyone misses you, a quality excuse must be at the ready.

  this will produce empathy toward you as opposed to suspicion.. 1. car problems ( don't mention that you caused them ).

  2. stuck on the phone resolving insurance, billing, etc issues.. 3. sick ( of the meetings ).

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  I was STUMBLED by... (insert reason)
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  Average Age of this Forum?

  by Garrett in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  heyo!.

  i'm quite interested in knowing the average age of those of us who use this forum.

  i made a quick strawpoll that you can find at the following link: http://strawpoll.me/4340636 just pick an age and click "vote" if you wish to participate.. admins: if this breaks any rules, i apologize in advance..

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  Am in my 20's... don't want to post anything specific just in case...
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  JW's abandon Book Carts as Feminist Transvestite Attacks Random Men in Public

  by GodZoo in

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  2. entertainment

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiyjjyqb8hu.

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  WTF did I just watch...???
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  Types and anti types

  by Deltawave in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  according the watchtower study of may 10th, it has been made clear no prophetic meaning should be given to a a scripture or passage unless the bible itself gives clear interpretation of it.

  therefore daniel 7 especially gives it's fulfillment to nebuchadnezzar only.

  no future kingdom or 2520year wait til 1914. no gentile times or "this generation".

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  From the WT Study Edition, March 2015, pages 9 - 11

  Link: http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20150315/clear-simple-teaching-bible-truth/

  
  A SIMPLER, CLEARER APPROACH TO BIBLE NARRATIVES
  

  
  7 If you have been serving Jehovah for decades, you may have noticed a gradual shift in the way our literature explains many of the narratives recorded in the Bible. How so? In times past, it was more common for our literature to take what might be called a type-antitype approach to Scriptural accounts. The Bible narrative was considered the type, and any prophetic fulfillment of the story was the anti-type. Is there a Scriptural basis for prophetic pictures? Yes. For instance, Jesus spoke of “the sign of Jonah the prophet.” (Read Matthew 12:39, 40.) Jesus explained that Jonah’s sojourn in the belly of the fish—which would have been Jonah’s grave had Jehovah not preserved him alive—was prophetic of Jesus’ own time in the grave.

  8 The Bible contains other inspired prophetic pictures. The apostle Paul discussed a number of them. For example, Abraham’s relationship with Hagar and Sarah provided a prophetic picture ofJehovah’s relationship with the nation of Israel and the heavenly part of God’s organization. (Gal. 4:22-26) Similarly, the tabernacle and the temple, Atonement Day, the high priest, and other facets of the Mosaic Law contained “a shadow of the good things to come.”(Heb. 9:23-25; 10:1) It is fascinating and faith-strengthening to study such prophetic pictures. Can we conclude, though, that every character, event, and object described in the Bible foreshadows someone or something?

  9 In the past, such an approach was often taken. Consider, for example, the account about Naboth, whose unjust trial and execution were arranged by wicked Queen Jezebel so that her husband, Ahab, could seize Naboth’s vineyard. (1 Ki. 21:1-16) Back in 1932, that account was explained as a prophetic drama. Ahab and Jezebel were said to picture Satan and his organization; Naboth pictured Jesus; Naboth’s death, then, was prophetic of Jesus’ execution. Decades later, though, in the book “Let Your Name Be Sanctified,” published in 1961, Naboth was said to picture the anointed, and Jezebel was Christendom. Hence, Naboth’s persecution at Jezebel’s hands pictured the persecution of the anointed during the last days. For many years, God’s people.found this approach to Bible accounts faith strengthening. Why, then, have things changed?

  10 As we might expect, over the years Jehovah has helped “the faithful and discreet slave” to become steadily more discreet. Discretion has led to greater caution when it comes to calling a Bible account a prophetic drama unless there is a clear Scriptural basis for doing so. Additionally, it has been found that some of the older explanations about types and antitypes are unduly difficult for many to grasp. The details of such teachings—who pictures whom and why—can be hard to keep straight, to remember, and to apply. Of even greater concern, though, is that the moral and practical lessons of the Bible accounts under examination may be obscured or lost in all the scrutiny of possible antitypical fulfillments. Thus, we find that our literature today focuses more on the simple, practical lessons about faith, endurance, godly devotion, and other vital qualities that we learn about from Bible accounts.

  11 How, then, do we now understand the account about Naboth? In much clearer, simpler terms. That righteous man died, not because he was a prophetic type of Jesus or of the anointed, but because he was an integity keeper. He held to Jehovah’s Law in the face of horrific abuse of power. (Num. 36:7; 1 Ki. 21:3) His example thus speaks to us because any one of us may face persecution for similar reasons. (Read 2 Timothy 3:12.) People of all backgrounds can readily understand, remember, and apply such a faith-strengthening lesson.

  12 Should we conclude that Bible narratives have only a practical application and no other meaning? No. Today our publications are more likely to teach that one thing reminds us of or serves to illustrate another. They are less likely to present many Bible accounts in a rigid framework of prophetic types and anti-types. For example, we can rightly say that Naboth’s integrity in the face of persecution and death reminds us of the integrity of Christ and his anointed. However, we can also be reminded of the faithful stand of many of the Lord’s “other sheep.” Such a clear and simple comparison has the hallmark of divine teaching.
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  Regarding the Nepal earthquake

  by Syme in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  over 6,100 dead in nepal until now.. a huge disaster, a terrible tragedy, and in front of that, the average j-dub will have in his mouth the "earthquakes from place to place will happen" prophecy.. a tragedy of that size happens, and what do jws do?

  they almost rejoice, because in their mind it "fulfills" bible prophecy, and on top of that, they can't wait to see what positive impact on the preaching work that disaster is going to have.. remember that famous photo-of-the-year, where a vulture waits for that starved african boy to die, so that it can eat the body?

  that's the case here.

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  The smart aleck teen... is he still in or out?
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  Jehovah Witnesses, Elders or Elderettes, Which Sex Was More Wicked In Your Experience?

  by PokerPlayerPhil in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i would have to say i've seen more wicked elder-ettes and jw women than men, the women can hold grudges forever and they can't forgive even the smallest sin their fellow jw commit-ed against them!.

  i wish i could share the details about my aunt and how evil she is and why all her brothers and sisters hate her with a vengeance.

  the kingdom hall she attend's is the world's worst kingdom hall, it's created a poison that's killed off dozens of good witnesses who left the organization because the elder-ettes and their kiss-ass coat-tail riding followers treated everyone outside of their clique like shit!

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  Looking at all those bullying, judgemental, & unpleasant people which I have encounted before in various congs, I can't help but notice something very obvious in EVERY case...

  They are all unhappy & miserable people

  Anybody else here have the same observation?
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  Things I trust more than the Jehovah's Witnesses Governing Body

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. social
  2. humour

  i stole this, from of all places, rick fearon.

  i don't know who he stole it from.

  please think of more.. things i trust more than the jehovah's witnesses governing body+ the media+ mexican tap water+ cappuccino from bill cosby+ a bigfoot sighting+ a politician who says "trust me"+ an al qaeda who wants flying lessons, but skips landing and take-offs+ a hillary clinton war story+ bill clinton wanting to give a speech at an all-female school+ gas station sushi+ a brian williams or bill o'rielly news report+ email from a nigerian prince.

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  Playing Russian roulette with only one empty chamber