Posts by sparrowdown

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How do you mentally switch off

by joe134cd in

when i was first introducing myself to apostasy, i sincerley believed i could play both worlds.

at the time i wasn't happy been a witness, and i didn't like the people in my congregation, but i thought i could just stumble along.

with in 18 months of visiting my first apostate site, i had walked out of the kh.. what i have a hard time getting my head around are these people who can successfully play both worlds.

sparrowdown

I sincerely applaud all of you joe, kate, searcher,quelly.

Now your experience is here to continue the healing in others.

sparrowdown

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Scriptural Grounds for Divorce - Unbelievable story

by Comatose in

jw
friends

i personally know the individual involved closely, this is not a rumor.

this is what happens when you let three unqualified guys decide whether or not you get to ever date again with jehovah's blessing.. a young man finds out his wife is cheating on him by seeing texts on her phone.

he knows the person she is cheating with.

sparrowdown

I have always considered marriage to be between the two marriage mates period. It's no one elses business.

Unless of course if abuse is involved, in which case it's a matter for the police.

This guy knows his wife is fooling around then I am sure "God" does too. Hell, he probably knew before the guy did.

I don't think he needs to run it past any doofus elder to make sure the facts are staight.

Where do they get off telling anyone who can marry who?

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The poison spreads further than I thought.

by quellycatface in

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friends

i explained that i had da'd early december, due to many reasons, ie; paedophile cover-ups, doctrine, hypocrisy etc etc....... she said she would keep in touch and we'd meet up in february when we would be visiting her area.

i also asked for her df'd sister to get in touch.. guess what?

not a dicky bird.. i've seen on her facebook page that she she still has some very active witness mates, she obviously wants to stay friendly with.. i feel like i've been hurt all over again by this stupid ass cult that ruins good friendships totally.

sparrowdown

Hello quellycatface,

I know I am new here and my opinion don't count for much. But it seems apparent to me who the "christian" is in this scenario.

You did the loving reasonable thing and extended a hand of friendship.

That's all anyone can do. Be proud of yourself for that.

Try not to let it get to you. Believe in yourself, that's the place to start.

Take care.

sparrowdown

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How do you mentally switch off

by joe134cd in

when i was first introducing myself to apostasy, i sincerley believed i could play both worlds.

at the time i wasn't happy been a witness, and i didn't like the people in my congregation, but i thought i could just stumble along.

with in 18 months of visiting my first apostate site, i had walked out of the kh.. what i have a hard time getting my head around are these people who can successfully play both worlds.

sparrowdown

KateWild,

That's awful you applied 5 times for reinstatement. How did you do it ?.

You know I am constantly amazed at the intestinal fortitude shown by the personal experiences of people here.

All I can say Kate Wild is their loss!

sparrowdown

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Elders Will Be Notified & WILL FIND YOU in the Hospital

by Aude_Sapere in

don't wait.

update your advance medical directives before you find yourself in my situation.... .

my left arm was feeling 'odd' last friday morning as i was getting dressed for work.

sparrowdown

Hello AudeSapere,

Great to know you are doing ok.

I had a similiar incident recently. I had to go to hospital for 2 weeks and while I was there the nurse came in to tell me that I had a visitor. Since nobody knew I was there and I was in a different state I was perplexed. The nurse said it was two jws. I was feeling very unwell that morning and could not cope with meeting two strangers let alone a couple of bro's. I told her to send them away, but I had no idea how they knew I was there. It was a large teaching hospital in a capital city so they may have just been doing the rounds but it was very unnerving to say the least. It felt like an invasion of privacy. The only thing I can think of is that it was a momentary lapse of reason that caused me to sign in as jw. When you are ill you are not thinking straight. Any way lesson learned do not sign in as jw.

Thanks for your experience.

Cheers

sparrowdown

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How do you mentally switch off

by joe134cd in

when i was first introducing myself to apostasy, i sincerley believed i could play both worlds.

at the time i wasn't happy been a witness, and i didn't like the people in my congregation, but i thought i could just stumble along.

with in 18 months of visiting my first apostate site, i had walked out of the kh.. what i have a hard time getting my head around are these people who can successfully play both worlds.

sparrowdown

Hi joe134cd,

I can relate. I don't know how they do it either. For me once that first domino fell the others followed in quick succession. Now I can't bear the intellectual and emotional dishonesty required to hang out with those I know that are still in. I too still have a foot in both camps at the mo and I hate it. If you ever figure out the secret to how people successfully lie to themselves let me know.

Anyway Cheers and all the best to you.

PS: I found it helpful to practice mindfulness and only concentrate on the here and now. Try not to think about the big picture too much.

Take care now.

sparrowdown

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Changes, changes everywhere, but not a drop of truth.

by sparrowdown in

for any org/corp to survive it needs to reinvent itself continually to cope with everchanging markets, public opinions and trends.

this is bad news for an org that prides itself on worshipping an unchangeable god.

so how does the wt reinvent itself while maintaining a"no variation of the turning of the shadow "..blah blah?.

sparrowdown

previously on bald and the boastful.........

The hollowmen at headquarters are busy organizing a giant "muppet shuffle" distracting everyone to the fact that they have no intention of addressing any of the real issues. Evil laughter can be heard from behind boardroom doors.

Meanwhile back in the congregations the natives are getting restless. The air is thick with rumor, gossip and speculation (pretty normal then).

"What does it all mean " they ask in hushed tones.

Then the young tech geek ms yells "holy hotbed of corruption fatman the GB are starting their own television station."

Stay tuned

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Mr. Pierce...Mr. Pierce...Mr. Pierce... Mr. Guy Pierce

by confusedandalone in

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friends

a few minuites ago talking to my sister who is finally seeing the watchtower for what it is and is scrutinizing it alot brought something to myu attention that troubled my longtime jw mother dearly.

she said after reading the article about the death of guy pierce she noticed that they never refered to him as brother pirce.

she said everytime they mentioned his name they refered to him as mr. pierce.. .

sparrowdown

sir82: Guy Pierce the GB member courageously endured sharing his name with one of the aussie actors from the movie Priscilla Queen of the Desert.

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Joining a Church and advice from co-workers!!!!!!!!!!

by Jon Preston in

so im obviously out mentally....i havent da-ed but i cant care less!

but.....my co workers are encouraging me to find and join a church.

this person is particularly "wisdomonian" meaning she seems to solve and assist many an ailing indicidual in my field.

sparrowdown

I don't mean to be picky Jon Preston but you have not reached the WT required quota of superfluous exclamation marks in your title.

Cheers

sparrowdown

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Changes, changes everywhere, but not a drop of truth.

by sparrowdown in

for any org/corp to survive it needs to reinvent itself continually to cope with everchanging markets, public opinions and trends.

this is bad news for an org that prides itself on worshipping an unchangeable god.

so how does the wt reinvent itself while maintaining a"no variation of the turning of the shadow "..blah blah?.

sparrowdown

While on the subject of "change". I have thought for some time the whole CO/DO arrangement is an outdated dinosaur of an idea. A relic from the glory days of the past when bro's and sis's actually looked forward to visits from the CO and assemblies. Now both are burdensome to endure and cumbersome to facilitate and changes on that front are long overdue. No more DO? I say bout time get rid of CO's next, then empty out the branches.