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  Jehovah's Witnesses: Disassociation and Lawsuits, I have a question!!

  by isnrblog in

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  many of you who have or had been jehovahs witnesses for sometime will remember that back before say 1980 or so, the congregation could disassociate an unbaptized person and that person was treated as disfellowshipped.

  that happened a lot, pre 1980.. .

  for example, as a teenager in the 60s, several of the teenagers in my cong were disassociated and treated as disfellowshipped .

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  I remember the this very well. Back in the early 80's we had a mother and three daughters in our congregation. The two older daughters were about age 11 and 12 and they were reported to the elders for smoking at school. Neither girl was baptized, but an announcement was made that they were to be shunned. Those girls ended up going on to drugs, one of them ending up in jail. This was so cruel. The elders couldn't even take into consideration that their father was an alcoholic.

  One of the elders that was involved is now no longer going to meetings, and he commented to Clyde recently how bad he felt about it. I feel bad too because the person who reported him was my son, and I remember commending him for helping to keep the congregation clean.
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  WT Comments (1/21 ARE YOU READY?) FEATURING NOSFERATU

  by V in

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  And, that assertation that prayer is the solution to your problems. It is not. About 90% of your problems can be solved or lessened simply by acting, and that does not require prayer

  A fairly common expression I used to hear (from "worldly" people) when I was young was, "God helps those who help themselves." I think there's a certain amount of truth in that simple statement.
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  Do they still do the Friday Night Pre-WT Study???

  by Confucious in

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  2. experiences

  in the early 90's, all the rage was the pre wt study.. basically, the young witnesses would get together on friday nights to underline their watchtower together.. then afterwards we'd hangout or whatever.. it used to drive me crazy because if you wanted to hang out, basically you would have to sit through another meeting.. granted it was informal, but it was the same dang thing you were going to do again on sunday.. the young ones still doing this today?.

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  I thought this all stopped in the early or middle 80's. My kids always went to the Friday night studies. I think they stopped it because they were afraid they might ask questions that would never be asked on Sunday. I'm sure the incident at Bethel about 1980's had a lot to do with it. Can't have those witlesses together except under controlled conditions.
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  106 year old sister auxiliary pioneers - Jan KM

  by truthseeker in

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  2. friends

  yep, there's no excuse for any of you lot.. if a sister of 106 can auxiliary pioneer last memorial season, so can you.. this ancedote was in the jan km - puke making - what the heck was a 106 year old doing going from door to door, and i mean this literally, not just phone witnessing.. have these people got no sense?

  i mean 106 years old and making 50 hours a month - for what?.

  if anyone here has the us km, please upload it here as i don't have a scanner..

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  I can imagine the scenario.

  1) She walks from door, and there are two brothers on either side holding her up, and they carry her up any steps and prop her up as they talk to the householder.

  2) She sits in a wheelchair in the mall and passes out literature but has no idea what she's doing.

  3) She rides in a car in rural territory and gets out once all morning again with the assistance of two brothers.

  4) The sisters do telephone witnessing in her home, and because she's in the room, she gets the count the time.

  I remember going in service with my father and mother when she was deep into Alzheimers. She just rode along. Had no idea what was going on.

  Even if she was in perfect health and had all of her senses, why can't they give the old people a break? What do they think they are accomlpishing?
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  Did You Like The Elders In Your Hall?

  by minimus in

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  i thought most of them were alright but a couple really sucked!

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  I remember a "brother" (not baptized but attended meetings) who commented that when an elder was appointed, their personality changed. I really believe that most elders have two personalities. At times they are ordinary, decent people--but when they put on the elder personality, they often become something else. My father was a good example. We were good friends when we were taking care of my mother during her last years. He was so greatful for my help. Then mother died, and he went back into elder mode. Certain relatives came forward to inform him that I was no longer attending meetings or going in service (I was completely worn out working full time and being a nurse for my mother). Suddenly my father turned against me and left most of the estate to my daughter.

  He was a good enough father, but I didn't like him as an elder and I think there were lots of people who felt the same way about him for reasons of their own. He was extremely judgmental, but then, he was taught to be that way.
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  I don't like using Jehovahs' name anymore

  by LouBelle in

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  i must say the more and more i learn and find my way around my spirituallity the less i use the name jehovah.

  it just reminds me of everything i went through, reminds me of the ""bad"" and not the good of god.

  it reminds me of hypocracy and mind control.

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  As long as Clyde has been away from the "truth," and even though he knows that Jehovah is not found in the NT, he still addresses Jehovah when he says prayer before mealtime. Our son, who has been out 3 or 4 years, does the same when he says prayer. Doesn't matter one way or another to me, but it did embarrass me slightly one time when we had some non-jw company for dinner, and Clyde used the name when saying prayer.
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  To Hire a JW Could Mean ...

  by compound complex in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  good morning:.

  if an old thread regarding dr. brenda upton v. the wtb&ts had not been bumped up, i would never have come across this horrific but spellbinding information.

  please consider these opening words:.

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  Confidential information could be given to the elders if the JW employee felt an obligation to report.
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  HLC talks to cease

  by dozy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it has long been the practise for hlc members to give occasional (usually annually) public & special talks and local needs items on blood & related issues at meetings.

  these were often quite well organised with powerpoint presentations , handouts and open q & a session.. as of jan 2008 , the wts has written to all hlc members telling them that they can no longer do this & has written to bodies of elders telling them that they can no longer invite brothers to give talks , especially concerning the "advance medical directive document".. a hlc friend tells me that the wts apparently are further wanting to distance themselves from possible legal action and are also concerned that some hlc members are putting their own slant on the wts "conscience matters"..

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  I would think that an HLC member giving a presentation to a group of doctors could be asked some rather embarrassing questions--like, how is it that your group states that they don't take a drop of blood, but allow blood fractions?
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  Isn't it wonderful to find 'Kindred Spirits' here?

  by AK - Jeff in

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  2. experiences

  i received a pm from another long time poster - this poster has been out about the same time as i have - his circumstances in getting to his place have been quite different from mine.

  yet, he stated he feels that he is in the same place re: religion, spirituality, etc.

  so last nite he calls - and we had a wonderful conversation.

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  So very very true - not one of my old "friends" kept in contact. And I had soooooooooooo many back then.

  LouBelle - I also had a lot of "friends." Then I discovered that the vast majority of them weren't friends at all. They were merely acquaintances whose friendship hinged upon my giving my unqualified allegiance to an organization of men.

  Bonnie
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  Revelation Jan 07-08 Week in review

  by still_in74 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  sorry for the text format, i have this all in html with all kinds of formatting for emphasis but it keeps coming up error when i try to submit.. .

  chapter 29. .

  singing the triumphal new song.

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  Afterwords during the car ride home, my wife turns to me and says "You don't understand a word of what was said tonight do you?".....

  Did you ask your wife to explain it to you?