Thanks for your posts. I finally got a copy of this book. I'm sure they wouldn't want the general public to see this! It's hard to believe, but I went along with this type of reasoning for years.
Bonnie_Clyde
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Congregation Bible Study Comments - Week Commencing 4 May 2009
by LUKEWARM in[box on page 46, 47].
"listen to counsel and accept discipline".
satan's spirit-his rebellious, contentious attitude-fills today's world.
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Ever Wonder Why JWs Avoid Sitting in The Front Rows at The Kingdom Hall?
by Room 215 init seems to me that in every kh i've attended, jws love to occupy the latter half of the hall.
any ideas why?
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Bonnie_Clyde
"Maybe it would be good if you just had a big DF tattooed on my forehead so people would know!!! Oh yeah, I told him too, that he needed to make sure all the people in good standing sit in the front rows!!!!"
I actually remember a sister who wore a badge at the assembly that said she was disfellowshipped.
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Gilead teaches that Watchtower Presidents prophetically pointed to!?
by yadda yadda 2 ini read the following on http://governingbodyletters.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2008-01-01t00%3a00%3a00-08%3a00&updated-max=2009-01-01t00%3a00%3a00-08%3a00&max-results=50.
"it means you are still a babe to the fact that jehovah's witnesses really teach that practically all "faithful" old testament charecters from noah and abraham through elijah and elishah and david to hezekiah are prophetic of the presidents of the watch tower bible and tract society.
the one i refer to the most is as an answer to one of the questions on a gilead test, elijah prophetically pointed to judge rutherford, elisha pointed to n h knorr.
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Bonnie_Clyde
(1961) - "Let Your Name Be Sanctified" - page 335
I remember studying this book. The whole book was pretty much devoted to showing that the faithful and discreet slave was pre-figured by Elijah. When Rutherford died in January 1942, "the Elijah work passed to be succeeded by the Elisha work." Especially interesting is Chapter 18 of this book, but I don't have time to go into it. But when you read between the lines, you realize that Elijah passing the work on to Elisha was the same as Rutherford passing the work on to Knorr.
In fact, it is suggested that there were more than just Knorr. On page 335 it states that "Rutherford was abed on the Pacific Coast in December 1941 (shortly before his death) when two men of the anointed remnant (one since 1913 and one since 1922) and one of the "other sheep" (since 1934) were summoned from Brooklyn headquarters to Rutherford's bedside at the home called "Beth-sarim." I believe the one from 1913 was Fred Franz, the one from 1922 was Knorr, and the "other sheep" guy was Hayden Covington (who later fell out of favor).
I think Raymond Franz commented on this event in one of his books--much more clearly than I
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Flu panic in your area?
by cameo-d ini have scanned several newspapers from different states.
it seems some have declared a state of emergency.. many say hospitals are overflowing with people coming in for runny noses (who do not have flu, but are in a panic about it or are trying to get heavy antibiotic prescriptions).. some states have schools closing.. just wondering.... are any of you seeing any flu panic in your area?.
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Bonnie_Clyde
True story - My daughter-in-law works at the local hospital. Last Friday a women came in for a routine diagnostic test and while she was signing, she sneezed and coughed. One of the employees pulled a mask out of a box on her desk and handed it to her.
"What's this for?" she asked.
"You have to wear it, it's hospital regulations, because of the swine flu epidemic."
I WILL NOT wear it," she yelled. "I'll go to another facility before I wear that mask."
"Madam, you have to wear that mask!"
Irately, the woman pointed at the box of masks, "It says right there on that box that those masks came from Mexico!"
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Climate Change - Why are only the negative points presented?
by donny ini was reading some articles from the 1960's through the late 1970's where scientists were concerned about global cooling.
the articles talked about how the oceans would become more salty as the ice caps grew larger which would wipe out many types of marine life.
they also mentioned how this would lead to more cool/cold "high deserts" as there would be less water in the atmosphere for rain to develop from.
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Bonnie_Clyde
Hey guys! We should be more concerned about the economy. The way things are going we aren't going to have any manufacturing or vehicles to warm up the atmosphere.
Has anybody considered that volcanoes could be to blame? Glacial melting could be caused by heat from below more than from the atmosphere. Anybody heard of the huge volcano, Krakatoa, in Indonesia that blew up in 1883 and warmed up the climate over much of the world?
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Confirm - SWINE FLU only killed eight so far - No need for panic! Spanish flu's Example
by Witness 007 indon't panic!!!!!!!!!
7 died in mexico and 1 in america.....but hang on, one mexican infant died visiting america from mexico so technically 8 mexicans have died so far.
who is doing a great job being careful.
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Bonnie_Clyde
Funniest thing I've heard for a long time. My daughter works at the local hospital. Today a woman came in and started coughing. One of the workers pulled a mask out of a box on her desk and handed it to her. "What's this for?" she asked. "You have to wear it, it's hospital regulations, because of the swine flu epidemic." "Absolutely not," the woman cried as she eyed the box. "It says right there on that box that those masks came from Mexico!"
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Climate Change - Why are only the negative points presented?
by donny ini was reading some articles from the 1960's through the late 1970's where scientists were concerned about global cooling.
the articles talked about how the oceans would become more salty as the ice caps grew larger which would wipe out many types of marine life.
they also mentioned how this would lead to more cool/cold "high deserts" as there would be less water in the atmosphere for rain to develop from.
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Bonnie_Clyde
I wouldn't mind a little more global warming. We had a real cold winter and April wasn't all that warm either. Thank God it warmed up since the last ice age.
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Comparisons between todays Witnesses and those 40 years ago
by truthseeker inloyalty, devotion, hardcore, willing to lose jobs to attend friday of the district convention.
these were the witnesses who came into the truth or were born into it some 30-60 years ago.
they could reason from the scriptures and hold their own at the doors.. today, i see a large mass of witnesses who have been in some 10-15 years who really don't know much about their own faith, could not explain 1914, are unwilling to lose jobs and sleep over attending meetings and assemblies and live double lives.
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Bonnie_Clyde
I remember being one of 16 people who stayed in a "worldly" house in Milwaukee in either 1961 or 1963--a 6-day assembly (I think). We paid about $4 each per night, and I guess the couple that let us stay must have really needed the money to have put up with us. We had one bathroom to share, and that got real interesting.
Also remember the magazines in the windows of the vehicles especially when traveling to New York in 1958. It was so great to see fellow witnesses waving back to us along the road. There was a sense of commeraderie that is missing today, but it was all an illusion.
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Swine Flu world epedemic Lies! Remember Sars and Birdflu nothing happened!
by Witness 007 inwhat's with the damn media panic?
swine flu is gonna wipe out the world!.....like the witnesses i'm tired of these lies, sars and bird flu were not that huge....a year ago a scientist said birdflu would be the next "spanish influenza" killing millions......hello, i'm still here wearing a gas mask!.
lets all panic the friggin world so they forget the economy!!!!!!
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Bonnie_Clyde
"We have far greater resources to deal with a flu epidemic than we had in 1918. The advance of Science and all that good stuff."
There may be far greater resources, but and outbreak the size of the Spanish flu would severely tax our medical system no matter how well prepared we are.
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Swine Flu world epedemic Lies! Remember Sars and Birdflu nothing happened!
by Witness 007 inwhat's with the damn media panic?
swine flu is gonna wipe out the world!.....like the witnesses i'm tired of these lies, sars and bird flu were not that huge....a year ago a scientist said birdflu would be the next "spanish influenza" killing millions......hello, i'm still here wearing a gas mask!.
lets all panic the friggin world so they forget the economy!!!!!!
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Bonnie_Clyde
Let's see. About 525 million people were infected by the Spanish Flu in 1918, with about 21 million people dying. Of course, this was worldwide. That was more than twice the number who had been killed during World War I. The epidemic spread quickly back then, but with modern transportation, it could spread much more quickly today. It's estimated the numbers could at least double if we had a repeat.
A lot of the victims were young, healthy males. It must have been a frightening time.