I'm just glad that Clyde had plenty of other ways to donate his time. When we first stopped going to meetings, we both talked about maybe attending another church--even let the Mormons visit us for a few weeks. Then we discovered there is a Moose Lodge near us. We are gradually getting involved in some of their charitable activites which includes helping the Salvation Army. Although we won't be doing any bell ringing, we can do lots of other things without coming under the radar of the elders.
Bonnie_Clyde
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Salvation Army - JW's don't donate, but would they accept help
by Bonnie_Clyde ini just did a quick search on the wt cd and confirmed that that jehovah doesn't approve the salvation army.
but would a jw accept help from them just like they will accept help from the red cross?.
btw, clyde has been asked to do a little bell ringing.
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I just read chapter 4 of Combatting Cult Mind Control and...
by doublelife inwow.
it's strange because even though i decided in sept that this is a false religion, it's still a little overwhelming to read this chapter.
if cult members have two identities, then where is my other identity?
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Bonnie_Clyde
Chapter 4.....I don't have a copy of the "Combatting" book now (gave it away) but I was astounded how that chapter completely described the witnesses - yet Steven Hassan wasn't pinpointing the witnesses in that book - he didn't even realze they were a cult.
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Salvation Army - JW's don't donate, but would they accept help
by Bonnie_Clyde ini just did a quick search on the wt cd and confirmed that that jehovah doesn't approve the salvation army.
but would a jw accept help from them just like they will accept help from the red cross?.
btw, clyde has been asked to do a little bell ringing.
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Bonnie_Clyde
I just did a quick search on the WT CD and confirmed that that Jehovah doesn't approve the Salvation Army. But would a JW accept help from them just like they will accept help from the Red Cross?
BTW, Clyde has been asked to do a little bell ringing. He says he has to find a way to decline gracefully as too many JW's in the area still know him and would turn him in. We are not ready to have our names read at the KH.
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As a JW Did you Feel " Guilted " to go to Meetings /Service if Injured /Sick ?
by flipper inmany people in the jehovah's witnesses , older ones, younger ones have been expected to pioneer, go in field service with physical disabilities and are even considered "martyrs" if they push themselves to their physical capacities beyond reasonableness .
thus many witnesses feel sick, exhausted, tired, and essentially fight depression due to high expectations to " burn out " for the wt society.
have any of you experienced this while in the witnesses ?.
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Bonnie_Clyde
We had a nasty CO a few years ago who got after a brother for not reporting FS time the previous month. The brother told him he was sick in bed that month. The CO said, "Well you could have written letters."
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How fast can you "prepare" a Watchtower lesson?
by Open mind inover the last 3 years i've gotten much faster at making a wt article look "studied".. .
how fast can you get one ready for inspection by snoopy elders and microphone handlers?.
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Bonnie_Clyde
A few years ago, one of the "sisters" (still a JW) showed me how she did it in less than 5 minutes. She underlined the first and last sentence of each paragraph. She said she could usually find the answer there anyway. But her real reason was to keep the hounders from counselling her.
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Circuit assembly tid bit
by Iwonder17 inanother way of saying this would be...stop thinking and listen to us.
this is something that i am having a really tough time with and have spoken to the elders about several times.
it would seem to make sense that i would be able to get reasonable answers to some questions, and if not they could at least be honest and say "i don't know".
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Bonnie_Clyde
He told me that perhaps I was studying too much.
That's about what they told Clyde. They said he was spending too much time thinking.
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As a JW Did you Feel " Guilted " to go to Meetings /Service if Injured /Sick ?
by flipper inmany people in the jehovah's witnesses , older ones, younger ones have been expected to pioneer, go in field service with physical disabilities and are even considered "martyrs" if they push themselves to their physical capacities beyond reasonableness .
thus many witnesses feel sick, exhausted, tired, and essentially fight depression due to high expectations to " burn out " for the wt society.
have any of you experienced this while in the witnesses ?.
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Bonnie_Clyde
I remember an experience in one of the magazines (several years ago) about a family on their way to a convention. They stopped at a lake on the way and their son went swimming - he drowned. But they didn't miss the convention. Don't remember how they worked it, as far as taking care of the body, but they had the funeral afterwards. The "brothers" and "sisters" at the convention made a big fuss over them about how wonderful it was that they put Jehovah first. Even back then, I thought that was stupid.
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Ex-JWs, How Many People Have Left the WTBTS Due To Your Efforts?
by ziddina inand, while we're at it, what did you feel was the best technique/were the best techniques for 'awakening' jws to the problems/threats within the wtbts??.
i was initially awakened by the realization that the bible writers had no clue about how the earth really worked - which meant that their god had no clue, either.
when exodus 19: 16-19 was read in the kh, i realized (as a young child, 7 or 8 if i remember correctly...) that those bible verses were describing a volcanic eruption - and the isra-el-ites - and their 'god' - were totally clueless as to the true nature of that eruption and mountain.... that was my first eye-opener... then there was the fellow - a householder - who said to me when i was a cute kid at the door helping 'spread the word', "those people are using you!".
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Bonnie_Clyde
Between Clyde and myself - two sons - 1 daughter-in-law - and helped a person who was studying to quit.
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did you go on the ministry in bad weather?
by highdose ini can remember being in the freezing snow and so cold my fingers were numb, i desparatly wanted someone to invite me in, just to warm up even, but no one did.. i got soaked on countless occasions having been dropped off in some remote corner of the territory, trying to find shelter in a thunderstorm.. i got burnt to a crisp in just half an hour in a uk heatwave, of course no one was at home... they were all far more sensible and had gone to the beach!.
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Bonnie_Clyde
Yes - and I took the kids with me--three of them. We usually had a rural territory and usually did return visits--but still.
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What can a divorced woman in her forties expect if she stays in the WT?
by dgp inpeople, another question from me.
i thank everyone in advance for their posts.. i know this is a difficult question, and perhaps one no one can answer.
but, let me post it anyways.
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Bonnie_Clyde
In my 20 years as a JW I only recall one woman over 35 getting married to a JW, and he was in his 70s. The rest either stayed single or found "worldly" husbands.
My divorced JW daughter remarried at age 39, the guy was 45, also a divorced JW. She is apparently happy with her husband--don't know for sure, she won't talk to me.