Bonnie_Clyde

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  Michigan Apostafest-Thank you Jourles !!

  by Junction-Guy in

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  i realize it has been almost 2 weeks since the michigan apostafest, but i havent had computer access.

  i want to say a big "thank you" to jourles for organizing this event.

  darin and i left dayton ohio on saturday morning july 22, we thought we were getting a good start and was making good time, until we started hitting traffic jams and road construction.

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  When are you having another apostafest in Michigan? Clyde and I would like to come?
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  We are a Return Visit for the Mormans

  by Bonnie_Clyde in

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  2. beliefs

  thought i sent this an hour ago, but apparently it didn't go.

  for about a year morman elders called on us off and on.

  finally clyde called it off.. but recently a new set of elders started coming.

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  Wow! You're all wonderful! I have a ton of ammunition now. They are not coming back till next Sunday. I plan to tell them that I have no interest in pursuing our discussions further. I think Clyde feels the same way although he might play along for awhile.

  I really think Ray Franz has the right idea. His relationship with God is personal. He doesn't belong to any organized religion, but he likes to talk with people of different religions. I know I would never join another church unless the church allowed freedom of thought and expression and if they truly cared about one another. I really don't care much any more about doctrine.

  I do miss the commeraderie that I used to feel as a JW, the feeling of being "right", and mostly I miss my daughter, my niece, and a few of my cousins. I'm not DF'd but am treated almost as if I were. My father even turned against me so much so that he signed his property over to my daughter and her husband. That's a long long story, and I will tell it someday when I can handle it emotionally.

  Thanks again for your interest.

  Bonnie
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  We are a Return Visit for the Mormans

  by Bonnie_Clyde in

  1. watchtower
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  thought i sent this an hour ago, but apparently it didn't go.

  for about a year morman elders called on us off and on.

  finally clyde called it off.. but recently a new set of elders started coming.

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  Thought I sent this an hour ago, but apparently it didn't go.

  For about a year Morman elders called on us off and on. Finally Clyde called it off.
  But recently a new set of elders started coming. They would sit out on the front porch with Clyde,
  and I would make myself invisible. A couple of weeks ago Clyde was taking a nap and the elders showed
  up on our porch. I told them that I could not accept their Book of Morman and gave my reasons why.
  Of course, they had their answer to why it was the book was from God.

  They know about our Witness background, and I told them that if had only two religions to choose from--
  the Witnesses or the Mormons, I would choose the Mormans although I really wasn't interesed in any
  religion right now. I told them that there were three things I liked about them--one was that they
  not only allow, they also encourage their young people to get an education. I liked the fact that
  they encourage their people to set food and other supplies aside in the event of a catastrophe. I
  like the fact that they seem to promote strong family ties (of course the Witnesses claim they do also).

  That was probably a mistake as now they have now set up a weekly schedule to come and teach us the
  "truth" about the Book of Mormon and about the prophet, Joseph Smith. Clyde doesn't mind their stopping
  by on a Sunday afternoon. He says it gives us a chance to relax, talk about God and Christ, and it
  gives them something to do.

  I've mentioned three things I like about the Mormons. Now I'm going to start on what I don't like
  about them.

  1) They are a high-control religion--just like the WT.
  2) I believe they also practice shunning. Does anyone know how severe?
  3) They are filled with man-made rules--just like the WT.
  4) They actually feel that modern revelations can actually nullify or replace Christ's teachings and
  example.
  5) They have an answer for anything--just like the witnesses--even if it doesn't make sense.
  6) They warn us about asking our "pastor" about the Book of Mormon because he would surely say it was
  wrong. If we want to know about the Mormans, go to the right source. I remember warning my studies
  the same way.
  7) They expect their members to tithe 10% of their gross. Yikes!
  8) They believe they are the only true religion.

  I asked them why they think it is wrong to have a drink. This is not really a big concern. I drink very
  moderately, rarely more than two a week. Clyde rarely drinks because of his medications. Their answer
  was that there was some revelation back in the 19th century that it was wrong to use alcohol. I asked
  about Jesus turning water into wine, but they feel that it was OK back then, but not now.

  They feel that if we start reading the Book of Morman, and pray to God, that we will come to accept it
  as God's word.

  Like I said, I don't mind talking to them. But what if they take over our minds? Now that is scary!
  Does anyone have any more information, or could someone give me a link so I can get more information.
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  Society selling 9 properties in New York

  by Bonnie_Clyde in

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  just heard this today from a very reliable source.

  anybody else hear this?

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  Just heard this today from a very reliable source. Anybody else hear this?
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  Where is the Michigan apostafest on Sunday?

  by Bonnie_Clyde in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  clyde and i are visiting relatives in michigan right now.

  wouldn't it be great if we could attend?

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  Clyde and I are visiting relatives in Michigan right now. Wouldn't it be great if we could attend?
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  What book are they studying at the book study these days?

  by unbrainwashed in

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  haven't been to one in a couple of years.

  i know they just finished the daniel book.

  what are they studying now?

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  I wonder what they will do with page 243? My Revelation book has a scathing denunciation of Christendom for their support of the League of Nations and the United Nations.

  If they were to edit out all of the ridiculous statements they made in this book, they might have 2 pages left. Better yet, why not just read the Bible?
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  CO Meeting w/Elders ("Lazy elders", Tattoos, Auto accidents)

  by doinmypart in

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  a few points from the 2006 biannual c.o.

  meeting w/elders & ms. the theme was "take a personal interest in others"...phil 2:4,5. shepherding work.

  we have lives in our hands.

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  Many, many years ago it was appropriate for us to tell people at the doors that we represented the WTB&TS. In fact, when a speaker was introduced at the meeting, they were often introduced as a representative of the WT. Now they really don't want to be named for fear of a lawsuit.

  I remember a story many years ago about a witness out in service who hit a dentist as he was crossing the street with his wife and child. Seems like it was about that time that we were told not to mention that we represented the Society when we were in service.
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  B-12 shot for the WT -"Deliverance" DC & Mideast flare up timing

  by Gregor in

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  once again, world events come along and give the wt a free booster shot.

  nothing better than coming home from the dc, opening the paper and seeing headlines like "mideast in flames" "is nuclear confrontation far off?

  " "north korea tests nuke capable missiles" etc etc.

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  "My gut feeling tells me that this is probably going to be similar to WWII where the end of this system looked as if it was beginning to occur. The outbreak of WWII even fooled J.F. Rutheford. He was convinced that Armageddon was going to happen within a couple of years, and said so at the District Conventions. This just might be history repeating itself."

  Did he ever put that in writing?
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  Telemarketers on your cell phone......

  by HappyDad in

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  i remember some time back where someone mentioned they got a telemarketer call on their cell phone.

  it must be happening or about to happen big time and soon.

  today, my financial statement came from my credit union and there was this note in it.

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  Post 3047 of 3048 since 04-Jun-01 54 y 5 m 4 d

  I have to say that since I listed my phones on the do-not-call list, my incidence of telemarketer calls has dropped from several a day to NONE. I haven't received a bonafide unsolicited telemarketing call in many months. I do get more calls from "surveys" now than I used to (which are exempt from the law), but nowhere near the number of telemarketing calls I used to get. For my money, the program is working just fine. It has also worked for us. We rarely get a sales call anymore. We are getting more "survey" calls, but not many.
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  Questions

  by server in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i greet everyone, .

  there are some questions that i want to ask you all, and would really be very thankful if there comes out someone to respond it purely.

  1- adultery [even looking lust for a woman (naturally for a woman to look lust for man)] is forbidden by lord, and jesus came to fulfil the law, and also in deuteronomy from 18th to 25th chapter, this sin and the punishment to it is being explained very briefly, now why many of those people who attribute themselves to the lord christ are completely in a adultery shaped life?

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  Pardon my ignorance, but how do we know that Server is from Turkey?