Welcome!
All input is appreciated!
been lurking for years, but couldn't log on.
for some reason, my email spam filter is inaccessable, and ended up having to open another account, simply to become a member... wonder how many others have had a similar problem.. its been an eye opener reading everyones life experiences, often so similar.. i was almost a born in, with a hardcore family.
abusive stepfather who was one of the original jws in the area, so much so, that it was called the xxxxx family religion.... been out for 25 years, am glad every day for that!!.
Welcome!
All input is appreciated!
this is the story of how i ended up here on this site.... .
i was stuck in a situation where reaching out took forever, an eternity.
it was ridiculous - no matter what i did, there was always more to do.
Good point 'whatthehades'...
I didnt want positions, as I am not one who enjoys the spotlight or "telling others what to do".
I prefer to simply help people from the sidelines.
But many appointed ones in the org are obsessed with titles and positions and getting the glory from all the 'friends'....If they dont get these, they often just disappear anyway....
this is the story of how i ended up here on this site.... .
i was stuck in a situation where reaching out took forever, an eternity.
it was ridiculous - no matter what i did, there was always more to do.
Hey "just kiddinng"...I am in the position of being "appointed and serving etc" in the cong, and let me tell you, its so much harder to sever the ties when you learn the TTATT from this position.
I plan on fading out, but in the meantime it is killing me!'
So, not getting appointed is a good thing for you. Its also good that you dont have a zealous pioneer wife, as this would also make it harder to leave if she is not of the same thinking as you....
BUT, one thing concerns me....why did you even want those "positions"?
Was it for recognition or pride, or was it to help people in the cong more? In the end remember that positions in the cong or organisation are just "big fish in a very very small and insignificant fish bowl"....of no value or postion at all in the real world....
its seemed like in my old hall(im still in just leared tthatt) evey other local needs part we had was about either gossip or needing more effort in the ministry.
also about brothers needing to step up and "reach out".. were/are there alot of gossip,lack of ministry support or lack of brothers in your hall when you were a jw?.
Ha!, where we are, they will try and create some juicy "local needs parts" even if there are no issues going on!
That then gets the gossip chain going, then sooner or later a real issue ends up arising!
self fulfilling prophecies!
just heard the special talk about why god allows suffering.
ugh... can't believe i used to believe this crap.
what do you all think of the universal sovereignty issue?
hey 'trapped in jw land', you must be in New Zealand or an island nation somewhere if you have heard it already today?
its still only 8;30 am in the east coast of Australia.....
just heard the special talk about why god allows suffering.
ugh... can't believe i used to believe this crap.
what do you all think of the universal sovereignty issue?
Great comments Tiktaalik!
spot on!
http://www.allgov.com/news/unusual-news/jpmorgan-chase-bank-closes-accounts-of-porn-actors-140426?news=853008.
so a bank that freely violates the law, commits massive fraud, launders drug money and lies to investors is too moral to take money from porn stars.
one of the things i realized as an ex-jw is that masses of people are deceived and distracted by sexual mischief/sins while ignoring vastly more harmful wrongdoing in general society.
I agree!
The obsession and guilt over normal sexual thinking or actions has messed up so many jw's lives!
I can attest to this!
i had a rough day of physical work and was tired and cold.
i decided to stay home and rest.
when my wife found out, a very strange look swept over her face for just an instant.
Arent we all "volunteers" in this org anyway?
HUH! thats what they say..."no one can force us into serving god (GB)"
We all know the reality is much different to that!
so recently there have been several posts with references to talks and articles that imply the following:.
most of those who learn ttatt or fade from the "truth", are actually practicers of bad things, eg immorality, hence that is why 'we' now find fault with the org?.
i find this so offensive that they imply such.
True point flipper!
we get to view people as real people, not through the corrupted judgemental lens of the WT viewpoint....
not long ago, there were comments on this topic.
i cannot find it, i don't know what the actual thread was.
i've checked back through the pages and done several searches, but don't know what the key words were, am coming up blank.
And what if you are a single sister?
Then the elders can grill you however they like with no other female there to keep the discussion in check and appropriate??
"So, how often sis do you %(#& yourself, and how?"
Sickos......