Posts by stuckinarut2

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Major Doctrinal Changes Must Be On The Way

by notsurewheretogo in

the statement in the article "who is leading gods people today?

" in the feb 17th study edition of the wt is very interesting.. it states: ""the g.b.

is neither inspired nor infallible" ..we can err .in doctrinal matters....".

stuckinarut2

The reality is, it doesn't matter about the specific teachings...

The REAL issue is: OBEY the GB in all things.

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a random thought occurred to me today.. i actually feel genuinely sorry for witnesses who cut contact with ones they feel are no longer "spiritual" .. they do this based not on anything that the person has actually done to them personally, but due to an imposed view from the society.. it must play havoc with their inner conscience as they try and reconcile that the person they cut off has not actually done anything to harm them, but they have to view them as evil.. it reminded me of this thread i started some time back.

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5751633187176448/all-my-friends-organisation.

stuckinarut2

A random thought occurred to me today.

I actually feel genuinely sorry for witnesses who cut contact with ones they feel are no longer "spiritual" .

They do this based NOT on anything that the person has actually done to them personally, but due to an imposed view from the society.

It must play havoc with their inner conscience as they try and reconcile that the person they cut off has NOT actually done anything to harm them, but they have to view them as evil.

It reminded me of this thread I started some time back

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5751633187176448/all-my-friends-organisation

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JW Facebook Groups

by Nevuela in

is anyone here familiar with the facebook group "jehovah's people: enduring these last days together"?

it's a closed group, so obviously you need to be a member in order to access any info or posts.

my anointed roommate is really frustrated because she's an admin and someone is taking miscellaneous posts from the group and posting it on their own page, which has the exact same name, minus the word "together.

stuckinarut2

Hasn't your "anointed roommate" heard that her "spiritual brothers" the GB have condemned all such online groups??

She is rebelling against such glorious ones and should be counselled by her elders for disobeying "theocratic direction"!

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If the GB changed a major teaching, would all witnesses just go along with it?

by stuckinarut2 in

so if the gb changed its "bible based beliefs" on some teaching, would witnesses all of a sudden change their individual beliefs too?.

witnesses like to claim that "their bible trained hearts and minds" make them believe as they do, but we know that the reality is that all witnesses hold their "deep seated beliefs" according to what they have been told to believe.. so what would cause the average witness to question those that dictate their "personal convictions"??.

thoughts?.

stuckinarut2

Great replies everyone!

Yes I know there have been many changes already over the years.

So I am wondering what it would REALLY take for a witness to wake up and question the authority?

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If the GB changed a major teaching, would all witnesses just go along with it?

by stuckinarut2 in

so if the gb changed its "bible based beliefs" on some teaching, would witnesses all of a sudden change their individual beliefs too?.

witnesses like to claim that "their bible trained hearts and minds" make them believe as they do, but we know that the reality is that all witnesses hold their "deep seated beliefs" according to what they have been told to believe.. so what would cause the average witness to question those that dictate their "personal convictions"??.

thoughts?.

stuckinarut2

So if the GB changed its "bible based beliefs" on some teaching, would witnesses all of a sudden change their individual beliefs too?

Witnesses like to claim that "their bible trained hearts and minds" make them believe as they do, but we know that the reality is that all witnesses hold their "deep seated beliefs" according to what they have been told to believe.

So what would cause the average witness to question those that dictate their "personal convictions"??

Thoughts?

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So does the Almighty God Jehovah make mistakes, or is the society NOT his spokesman?

by stuckinarut2 in

the society claims to be jehovah gods sole channel on earth - his spokesman.. if any witness disagrees with this claim, they are branded as an apostate and punished.. but the society has made countless errors over the century, and repeatedly changed doctrines and beliefs.

not to mention the appalling foundation teachings of the organisation's teachings!

so a simple question: is god making msistakes and getting things wrong, or is this proof that the society is not guided by god?.

stuckinarut2

Great comments!!

Keep them coming!

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Question: Can't You Just Ignore A Judicial Committee?

by Sorry in

one thing i've never understood is judicial committees.

yes, i understand it's held to see if elders should go through with the disfellowshipping process.

but why give them all the power?

stuckinarut2

Don't play by their rules, or give them any power over you.

Simply "treat them as one of he nations" and ignore the requests to meet!

If they keep sending such requests, remind them "of appropriate boundaries, and their need to respect your privacy"

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So does the Almighty God Jehovah make mistakes, or is the society NOT his spokesman?

by stuckinarut2 in

the society claims to be jehovah gods sole channel on earth - his spokesman.. if any witness disagrees with this claim, they are branded as an apostate and punished.. but the society has made countless errors over the century, and repeatedly changed doctrines and beliefs.

not to mention the appalling foundation teachings of the organisation's teachings!

so a simple question: is god making msistakes and getting things wrong, or is this proof that the society is not guided by god?.

stuckinarut2

The society claims to be Jehovah Gods sole channel on earth - his spokesman.

If any witness disagrees with this claim, they are branded as an Apostate and punished.

But the society has made countless errors over the century, and repeatedly changed doctrines and beliefs. Not to mention the appalling foundation teachings of the organisation's teachings!

So a simple question: Is God making msistakes and getting things wrong, or is this proof that the society is not guided by God?

Seriously, the society can't have its cake and eat it too! Which is it?

The bible claims "that God is the same yesterday and today" and there is "not a variation". His "ways are perfect" etc....

So which is it??

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Lost and Sad, Then He Found Me...

by Sorry in

well, i got myself in a dilemma.

i'm currently 18, being baptised for a year.

i had my doubts, but due to a variety of reasons (getting subtle flack for not baptised, not having a support system even if i wanted to leave).

stuckinarut2

You don't need to "lose" your family.

Just don't play by the witness imposed rules! If you want to catch up with your family, then just do so.

show them and all witnesses that you simply don't recognise their cult like imposed rules.

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"The G.B. is neither inspired nor infallible"

by smiddy in

that admission in the feb.17 ,study edition of the watchtower , " who is leading gods people today ?

" "the governing body is neither inspired, nor infallible, therefore it (they/we) can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction .".

have the many jehovahs witnesses past and present who have lost their lives by refusing blood transfusions due to the prohibition on blood tranfusions by jehovahs witnesses really got the sense of this statement ?.

stuckinarut2

Once again this proves the stupidity of witnesses for following EVERYTHING the GB says to the letter, even if it then changes!

How does such behaviour fit in with the scriptural admonition to "use your power of reason"?

There is NO reasoning or logical thinking with witnesses! It is simply "DO AS THE GB SAYS" or be viewed as evil and be punished!