i have a wife that literally cleans the house 24 7. it's hard on our marriage, our son has no natural affection for her.
if we go to an assembly she literally spends two days waxing and polishing the car.
she hand washes all the clothes before go into the washing machine because no machine could ever do as good a job as her.
Sadly, many who act like that are riddled with guilt. It may not even be proper guilt over anything wrong, but a FEELING of guilt.
Often members of high control groups never feel good enough, or feel like they are not up to standard, and such obsessive cleaning is evidence of that guilt feeling. Its like they try to "clean and scrub the guilt away"
She needs to be reassured that she has NOTHING to be guilty of.
okay there has been lots of buzz about the feb 2017 wt where they say the governing body is not inspired nor infallible.
yet, they are still using the baptism questions.
the second one being... "do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of jehovah’s witnesses in association with god’s spirit-directedorganization?".
Great thread!
And great comment evilApostate!
Yes, either they speak for God or they don't. If they don't, then why should witnesses base their EVERY life decision on the directions of the GB?
If they do speak for God, then God has a terrible habit of making mistakes....
as the op states why would israel /jewish nation need to have an army at all ?
if they were the chosen people as the bible states under a theocracy , why would the men of israel need an army .?
to protect them ?.
Great thread Smiddy!
It flys in the face of "god fights for his people" if they still have to go to war...and be injured or killed!
Does God take delight in seeing his people killed?
Also, HOW is it EVER OK for little babies and children to be killed in a "god-approved" war??
disclaimer: while this may be a sensitive topic to some, i don't wish to offend anyone.
please don't turn this into a political discussion with name calling and yelling.
i can see why the borg hates higher education.
If one has ever seen sheep in a paddock, they often wear down the grass in a set path as they all follow each other perfectly.
If one strays out of line...he is punished....
Yet, that same line can also lead directly to the truck that takes them off to the butchery.....
i just wanted to add my name to the many number of people who have awakened from the cult.
i have been lurking for probably 2 years now.
and i'm quite certain there are many more lurking and reading just like me.. i have to be honest and say that i most likely will not be contributing much to the discussion board.
Welcome!
Great to have you here in our wonderful community!
i was trying to find that scripture that talks about recognizing a false prophet.
in the watchtower online website, i did a search for the words false prophet and filtered it for scriptures only from the bible which brought up zilch in the way of results.
i did a google advanced search for the same thing and it brought up the scripture i needed which happens to be deuteronomy chapter 18:20-22 which reads... 20 “‘if any prophet presumptuously speaks a word in my name that i did not command him to speak or speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet must die.+ 21 however, you may say in your heart: “how will we know that jehovah has not spoken the word?” 22 when the prophet speaks in the name of jehovah and the word is not fulfilled or does not come true, then jehovah did not speak that word.
Ah yes, but they fall back on the old chesnut "We NEVER said we were prophets"
(Of course, we know though that they say we are "gods channel on earth today"...and that naturally means the same thing)
not playing their game, as i've learned here.
they came to my door to find me with a full beard and a nightmare before christmas hoody, playing a video game where the characters "do not act according to bible principles", and i happily answered the door.
i simply smiled and told them no when they asked if i have a minute.
"Thanks, but I am doing well actually. I don't need any encouragement. I am not feeling "down". Have a great day"
don't they have editors?.
why can’t they get it through their heads that they aren’t under the mosaic law.. look at the “imperfect food” that was served up at the nov 14 watchtower study.. "3. what can we learn about clothing from god’s law to the israelites?.
3 for example, in god’s law to the israelites there were rules that protected them against the.
Yes, great thread!
Either way, I thought we ARE NOT UNDER the MOSAIC LAW ??
It amazes me how the society so freely uses the comparisons to that unfaithful nation when it suits the point they are trying to make!
Anyway, just an observation, but didn't the Isrealite men wear DRESS-LIKE garments??
And yes! Beards show clearly the difference between a man and woman! God made men with "manly" beards right??
The level of idiocy is oustanding
so witnesses reject many practices or holidays due to their "unscriptural or pagan" origins.. for example, birthday celebrations, mothers or father's day, christmas etc..... most people in the world will say "but the origin doesn't matter anymore, we follow this custom now because it's a joyful occasion that creates happy times and brings the family together".
it is still firmly rejected.. so, if the wrong origin is so important, and should result in rejecting something, why isn't the same principle applied to the actual jehovah's witness faith itself!?.
after all, the very foundation of the organisation was based on wrong understandings of the bible, far fetched teachings and doctrines, links to false religious backgrounds, pyramidology, false predictions, inaccurate beliefs etc...... using their reasoning, it doesn't matter how good something is now, if the origin was faulty to begin with?
Once again bumping this topic, inspired by a civilised conversation a few days back with a witness.
After I shared an observation that the society had many, many strange and "wacky" teachings in the early days, he said: "It doesn't matter about all of that, as long as the truth is correct now"
It amazed me that the double standard could exist so freely in his mind....
"Truth" should be "truth" at all times right? Or does the Almighty make mistakes??
yep, another ex-jw comedian... preston parker.... .
jesus, take the g*ddamn wheel already.
preston parker grew up as one of jehovah’s witness.
Another Spelling mistake in the flyer...
"Jehova's Witness"??
