hi there i don't watch much of the propaganda on jw.org anymore but i did catch the november broadcast.. i think these guys are either evil or controlled by someone who is incredibly skilled at mind control.. firstly, they establish their authority by saying "everything" else is a lie - you can't trust media or anyone.
"there is no inspiration today.." but they somehow have the direct connection with god - yuck.. then, they proceed with that disgusting "shunning" drama - but now it is not called shunning, (around 24 mins) the mother said... "if we were to stand between levi and the discipline he needs we would in affect be blocking an expression of jehovah's love from reaching him...".
i am so angry at this, what a load.
It is classic cult manipulation.
They make out that "It is YOUR fault that this is happening"
It is NO DIFFERENT to an abusive husband saying to his cowering wife "NOW Look what you made happen! I had to hit you because you made me do it!. Now you have hurt me by making me have to hit you"
witnesses always claim to have a "bible trained conscience" yet they are really just watchtower robots who cant piss without checking with an elder or watchtower.
an elder who cuts hair was scared when i asked for a bald buzz cut since my hair was receding and grey.
he actually rang a bethel elder to see if this was okay watchtower wise!
Yes indeed!
Witnesses do not have individual consciences, but rather a "collective conscience" from the GB.
That is why the term "The Borg" is so appropriate
so the new jw hq is to be in warwick and no longer that bleak architectural fixture on the brooklyn skyline.
actually it makes more sense after all, upstate new york is a more suitable place to have a unicorn ranch than in a city.
but it is just as easy to produce a drizzle of fairy dust out in the country as it had been in ny.
Oh oh!! Data Dog, let me finish that sentence??
Meanwhile in Australia, they are looking to sell off the bethel realestate in order to settle the wave of law suits coming their way as a result of the Australian Royal Commission findings!
with recent events pointing at watchtower growth, i felt compelled to say a few words.. if the figures turn out to be true, then we should not be discouraged.
after 9/11 there was a surge in, not only the watchtower, but other demonisation of organised religion.
whenever there is a a paradigm shifting event that puts fear into others, this tends to have a life changing affect on an individual.. now let us zoom to the present.
The only growth comes from under-developed and uneducated countries ....
i have a wife that literally cleans the house 24 7. it's hard on our marriage, our son has no natural affection for her.
if we go to an assembly she literally spends two days waxing and polishing the car.
she hand washes all the clothes before go into the washing machine because no machine could ever do as good a job as her.
Sadly, many who act like that are riddled with guilt. It may not even be proper guilt over anything wrong, but a FEELING of guilt.
Often members of high control groups never feel good enough, or feel like they are not up to standard, and such obsessive cleaning is evidence of that guilt feeling. Its like they try to "clean and scrub the guilt away"
She needs to be reassured that she has NOTHING to be guilty of.
okay there has been lots of buzz about the feb 2017 wt where they say the governing body is not inspired nor infallible.
yet, they are still using the baptism questions.
the second one being... "do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of jehovah’s witnesses in association with god’s spirit-directedorganization?".
Great thread!
And great comment evilApostate!
Yes, either they speak for God or they don't. If they don't, then why should witnesses base their EVERY life decision on the directions of the GB?
If they do speak for God, then God has a terrible habit of making mistakes....
as the op states why would israel /jewish nation need to have an army at all ?
if they were the chosen people as the bible states under a theocracy , why would the men of israel need an army .?
to protect them ?.
Great thread Smiddy!
It flys in the face of "god fights for his people" if they still have to go to war...and be injured or killed!
Does God take delight in seeing his people killed?
Also, HOW is it EVER OK for little babies and children to be killed in a "god-approved" war??
disclaimer: while this may be a sensitive topic to some, i don't wish to offend anyone.
please don't turn this into a political discussion with name calling and yelling.
i can see why the borg hates higher education.
If one has ever seen sheep in a paddock, they often wear down the grass in a set path as they all follow each other perfectly.
If one strays out of line...he is punished....
Yet, that same line can also lead directly to the truck that takes them off to the butchery.....
i just wanted to add my name to the many number of people who have awakened from the cult.
i have been lurking for probably 2 years now.
and i'm quite certain there are many more lurking and reading just like me.. i have to be honest and say that i most likely will not be contributing much to the discussion board.
Welcome!
Great to have you here in our wonderful community!
i was trying to find that scripture that talks about recognizing a false prophet.
in the watchtower online website, i did a search for the words false prophet and filtered it for scriptures only from the bible which brought up zilch in the way of results.
i did a google advanced search for the same thing and it brought up the scripture i needed which happens to be deuteronomy chapter 18:20-22 which reads... 20 “‘if any prophet presumptuously speaks a word in my name that i did not command him to speak or speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet must die.+ 21 however, you may say in your heart: “how will we know that jehovah has not spoken the word?” 22 when the prophet speaks in the name of jehovah and the word is not fulfilled or does not come true, then jehovah did not speak that word.
Ah yes, but they fall back on the old chesnut "We NEVER said we were prophets"
(Of course, we know though that they say we are "gods channel on earth today"...and that naturally means the same thing)
