i have had some ultra weird exchanges with some existing jws these past 2 months that have me caught off guard (which is rare for me) - but overall just odd.. 1. i was out at a happy hour with some coworkers, and a woman whom i used to be friends with in another congregation came in with her husband.
background: her kids, myself, and her best friends son - were all close friends!
so we all were around this woman and her bff on a regular basis.
Wow!
Amazing.
I know of a sister who was DF at least three times for sleeping around. Amazingly, She then BRINGS two of the guys into the society!
So despite her life choices and activity, she was always still firmly mentally trapped by the society, and kept being emotionally and physically drawn back.
The FOG (Fear Obligation and Guilt) was strong obviously!
does the rank and file or the elders view us as disassociated or disfellowshipped or simply "weak" or possibly a "prodigal son" type?.
Um, remember the way that the "return to Jehovah" brochure presents those who are not active?
The ONLY acceptable reason for not attending is the ones they list!
HOWEVER in real life, any who stop attending are spoken off in less that glowing terms!
I can tell you of an Elders and MS meeting in which "weak" ones were mentioned (during those rare times when the elder body decided to do some shepherding!)
The level of contempt for some people mentioned made me object firmly to the rest of the body. I said "If this is the way we are speaking of people who are our Brothers and Sisters, AND we don't know their circumstances, then why bother trying to shepherd them? It seems like we have already judged them!"
I wasn't too popular that night.
a local elder had the part this week on the "good news" brochure.
he said: "if the householder has any questions, direct them to jw.org, don't say, just look up jehovah's witnesses on the internet(an older sister said this at the door), if you do they will be directed to a site visited by apostates and weak witnesses!
" "this mistake, would cause the householder to never accept bible truth".. i thought to myself, wow, i'm sure some listening to this part, will get curious now(many in the hall are just being exposed to the internet, and practicing with their new tablets) and do, just what they were told not to do..
The first time I ever found an "apostate" site was actually while trying to find the official site in order to research material for a public talk I was to give!
a local elder had the part this week on the "good news" brochure.
he said: "if the householder has any questions, direct them to jw.org, don't say, just look up jehovah's witnesses on the internet(an older sister said this at the door), if you do they will be directed to a site visited by apostates and weak witnesses!
" "this mistake, would cause the householder to never accept bible truth".. i thought to myself, wow, i'm sure some listening to this part, will get curious now(many in the hall are just being exposed to the internet, and practicing with their new tablets) and do, just what they were told not to do..
The BEST thing the society ever did was go online!
It is ONLY one or two clicks away from the TRUTH about the truth.....
i am new hear to the board.
i want to share my story to you all.. i was a born-in jw, baptized at a very young age, pioneered, woke up three years ago, disassociated last year, i am twenty years of age now.
shunned by all my friends in the org.. please show me some love and share some of your experiences with me.
Welcome!
Please feel free to share in discussions here. This is a safe place, full of people who understand the situation you are in.
Without giving away details that may identify you, please share some more info about yourself?
What part of the world are you in?
shocking video from jw.org shows the "new light" that there was no slave class handing out spiritual food for 1900 years!!
so the original governing body became apostate and fell apart.
charles russell re-started the faithful slave even though the watchtower admits he learned everything he ever knew from the "second adventists".
They are certainly demonstrating the "faithful and DISCREET" part of their description! (sarcasm alert)
The level of arrogance is mind blowing for them to say that only the current GB is actually the FDS!
I mean, I don't believe that the society was EVER "chosen by God", but for them to just wipe away the last 100 years of "spiritual leadership" is just preposterous! The current crop of leadership is simply a continuation of the last 120 odd years!
Haha Zappa!
So if they are the 7dwarves, then I propose:
Grumpy : ToMo3
Dopey: Lett
Bashful: Sanderson
Sleepy: Losch
Doc: Herd
Happy: Splane
Sleezy: Jackson
front page of the sunshine coast daily, friday 17 march 2017. yvonne, the mother of chris on bride and prejudice, has for the first time explained why she couldn't attend her gay son's wedding.
https://m.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/bride-and-prejudice-mum-denies-sons-church-control/3155773/.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5714189639221248/_post/5672317399072768.
I would also assume though that she was paid for her appearance on the TV show, and the newspaper article!
If not paid, then she at least had to agree to have the filming take place?
So she KNEW what was going on the whole time! To play ignorant was just foolish.
someone suggested i would address a letter not only to mr. angus stewart, but also to the royal commission as well.
it merges the two subjects on the same letter (inactive status and shunning; two witness rule), and adds some things more that what i said to mr. stewart.
it's a bit long, please bear with me.. --------------------------------------- .
Well done Eden!
I also contacted the ARC and discussed several of the points.
They were SO nice to speak with, and took the observations very seriously. I drew their attention to the 2016 convention videos and the november broadcast about how they view "worldly" ones and those who leave...
They took notes of the references, and immediately followed the links to the official videos of the society!
My respect for the people involved in the ARC is so high!
this is the email i have just sent to mr. stewart angus, who has been conducting the questioning of the jw leaders during the australian royal commission dealing with child abuse cases among the jehovah's witnesses, concerning the claims made that a jehovah witness who wishes to walk away from the organization can simply become inactive and avoid being shunned:.
dear mr. angus stewart,
i have followed with interest the videos of the arc regarding the jehovah's witnesses in australia.
Well done Eden!
I also contacted the ARC and discussed several of the points.
They were SO nice to speak with, and took the observations very seriously. I drew their attention to the 2016 convention videos and the november broadcast about how they view "worldly" ones and those who leave...
They took notes of the references, and immediately followed the links to the official videos of the society!
My respect for the people involved in the ARC is so high!
