This is being called a zone visit. No one knows exactly what to expect other than talks just like the annual meeting. I have heard people say it will be other speakers than just the governing body. Either way its going to be boring, uneventful, a waste of my time, and likely to get every JW around me invigorated for being a part of this awesome organization.
sloppyjoe2
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November 8th Special Meeting
by Chris Tann inanyone have any leaks on this three hour meeting we are having early november?.
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Jehovah's Witnesses are the only people who don't practice war and who preach worldwide!
by EndofMysteries inthis is what somebody has been telling me, trying to convince me aside from anything one can say or cause reason for doubt, as the evidence that they are the true religion and true people of god.
they are convinced because while 'all other' christian and other religions support war, troops, etc, jw's don't and they are the only one's who carry god's name and preach.
nothing else matters.
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sloppyjoe2
I would acknowledge that war is not pleasant. But war is all over the bible and used by Jehovah in the Old Testament extensively. I would ask this individual what would happen if the entire earth took the stance on war as JWs have and then adolph hitler came along? Where would we all be without war after he got through with his agenda?
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Mormon Church Founder had 33 wives
by designs inwe know russell, rutherford franz and knorr wer kooky but joseph smith takes the cake.. the salt lake tribune of all newspapers has run an article on the lds founder's 33 wives, most of whom were teenagers.. http://www.sltrib.com/news/173364-155/plural-smith-joseph-marriage-lds-says.
would you stay an lds after knowing this, how would you rationalize staying with this knowledge.. .
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sloppyjoe2
Tithing would be enough for me to run from the LDS.
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The REAL purpose of the new 1914 explanation video...
by Calebs Airplane inwhen a dub starts to question an elder about this doctrine (at the kh, field circus or wherever), the elder will only need to utter these words: "just watch the video".... .
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sloppyjoe2
The video didn't really tell you how to "explain" 1914 in detail. To do it as the video shows you have to do many things.
1. You automatically accept that 607 is the date of the fall of Jerusalem.
2. There was no explanation about why it was a literal 7 years for Nebuchadnezzar but it is 2520 years in our day. They try to say Jesus in Luke indicates that it is longer but Jesus is talking about the coming destruction of Jersusalem that occured in 70 ce.
3. No explanation on why you count 7 years in 360 day increments.
4. No explanation about a day for a year and why it applies.
5. No explanation why you can cherry pick scriptures from all sorts of different books and somehow they all are a part of the same prophecy.
6. Correct me if I am wrong but isn't this a type/antitype that they are doing away with?
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Who was the best batman?
by FL_Panthers init seems that batman has been portrayed by more actors than any other superhero.. who do you think has played the best in the role of bruce wayne/batman?.
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sloppyjoe2
Michael Keaton was my pick until the recent batman trilogy. Christian bale has done the best job at it but also the movies were good which I believe helps.
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When did you start getting ANGRY?
by Separation of Powers inwhen i started the fade....i recognize that i was upset, mainly because of the desillusionment.
but, over the course of the past several months, i am noticing an increasing anger toward all thing org.
it can only be described as indignation, not simply upset.
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sloppyjoe2
It happened in various stages. I learned everything in the late 90s and was just a teenager. I would argue and argue with my mom. Eventually I almost ended up in a judicial comittee. Fast forward this many years the only anger I get is how obvious it is that its just a farse but my family gets more convinced it's the truth with each change. I know there is nothing I can say or do which I have come to accept for many years. My parents will grow old and die always convinced the end is so close.
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Question for "apostate" couples.
by 3rdgen inhi everyone!
today i was reminded that just because both of us left the wtbt$ we are not always on the same page.. .
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sloppyjoe2
My wife has zero interest in keeping up with anything. she could walk away and never ask a single question about the religion again. I on the other hand keep up on things. The difference though was that she never fully studied even when she believed it. So when there is a big change to something the chances of her knowing what the previous doctrine was is pretty slim. The arguments we have is that we are not fully out yet. She would walk away tomorrow but I need a slower fade because of family.
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which book says it?
by sowhatnow inmy mom seems to railroad me into a debate at least once a week.. anyway long story short,.
she says 'there is no where in the literture that the wt writers claimed that a specfic year it was going to be armageddon.. well i thought there was, and id like to print it or show it to her, i have some older books but not many.. so, is there?
i told her that the wt claimed that 1975 was going to be the end, she said no, they said that was the beginning of the tribulation.. wow, she forgot about the most recent article ablout that already!.
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sloppyjoe2
http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/failed-1914-predictions.php
one thing to keep in mind. JWs for many years will promote ideas that are not ever put in print. 1975 is the best example. If you lived through 1975 you know that talk after talk around the world promoted that 1975 was going to be the year. They never actually printed that statement though. JWs then can go back and say that it never happened because it wasn't in print, especially those that didn't live through it. You're embarking on a pointless journey in my opinion. No matter what you show her, she will have a retort or excuse.
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HELP! Elder bombarded me with scripture...& I don't know what to do.
by Smoky ini have been lurking on this site for many years.
i rarely post anything, because my english isnt the best and not sure if anyone understands.
i just recently had a run in with an elder, have not seen him in a few years.
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sloppyjoe2
Your argument can't be to disprove his scripture. As an atheist you do not believe in the bible. The argument between you two can only be whether the bible is the word of God or it isn't. Otherwise, how are you going to prove something to someone using a book you yourself do not believe in? The bible can be interpreted and twisted thousands of different ways and every belief system has a way to explain their idea as the only right way. If you do not want to come out and say you are an atheist, there is no argument to be made.
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Memorial 2015
by ctrwtf inso the dw and i a re considering a trip to see some extended familly still very much "in.
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it turns out the first full moon after the vernal equinox is april 4th, 2015.. here's the good part...it's also the night of a full lunar eclipse.
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sloppyjoe2
There was a blood moon on the memorial for 2014. It has been discussed in multiple threads in the past year.