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  Revelation, its Grand Climax.... remember when?

  by wallsofjericho in

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  2. bible

  i remember being at the assembly in 1988?

  when this was released.

  everyone was so excited that we finally had a simple explanation of revelation with pictures.

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  Of all the hundreds of publications from the WBTS, I never read any scholar or scientist or key person ever making a reference to an article published by the WBTS......that does say something I guess
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  Gerrit Losch's "I DO NOT ANSWER TO WATCHTOWER"

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  in gerrit losch's public statement to the superior copurt of california.

  http://www.watchtower.exposed/?p=364.

  documents: https://www.dropbox.com/s/49zyexvagn7ux7j/losch%20public%20statement.jpg?dl=0.

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  And I repeat, I did not have sexual intercourse with that woman ........
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  Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"

  by breakfast of champions in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.

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  Thanks all for sharing the outcome of the visit. I read it was recorded. Where can we "pick" this recoring up?
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  Awake! to be part of Watchtower Public Edition!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this was posted on a jw site and it would be nice if we could verify.. .. .. as of february 2015, the awake!

  will come as a part of the watchtower public edition instead of as a separate magazine.

  this is a huge change... with serious cost savings.

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  menrov

  http://hildeydesa.blogspot.com/2014/10/carta-30914-se-recibira-la-revista.html

  Strange, the letter is dated 30 Setember 2014 but in the letter is says "starting with edition February 2014 (in Spanish: a partir de los numeros de febrero 2014).
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  I'm tired of the org misquoting scholars to support there heretical NWT

  by yogosans14 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  day after day jws are constantly fighting with me over the internet that the nwt is the most accurate translation and then they prove it by quoting scholars from the watchtower magazines.

  they tell me i'm biased and there rendering of john 1:1 as "a god" is approved by scholars but i have researched there so called "supporters" and i have found they have tooken what they said out of context to twist the scriptures to there liking.. .

  dr. julius r. mantey (who is even recognized by the watchtower as a greek scholar since they quote his book on page 1158 of their kingdom interlinear translation): calls the watchtower translation of john 1:1 "a grossly misleading translation.

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  If someone wants to prove a point or doctrine, that someone will search for support and will select statements that support his point or doctrine as much as possible. All translations of the bible were done with an "agenda". The NWT or rNWT is not different. What is different, is the explanations provided by the translator regarding his choice of translations. The NWT is very selective in providing a reason why a certain verse is translated as it is. The NET translation has an explanation for about every verse, so reader at least knows why the words are translated as they are.

  Did the trinity brochure contain misquotes? I guess that not all quotes were accurate, but likely just within the limits of the law.

  Regarding John 1:1, if it is "a god" does this mean a god like Satan is a god or like Wealth/Money which is represented as a god? And if godly, why treat Jesus as he is a mere angel (Michael)? If one is a god, that one is more than an angel.

  Further, if it is translated as "a god" then why not consistently done throughout the bible. The word Theos, presumably used here, is used over 300 times (according to biblehub / Strong). Greek also does not use comma's or punctuations, which means it is up to the translator to add them, which can be at times very arbitrary. Look for example at Romans 9:5, which also contains the word THEOS:

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  To them the forefathers belong, and from them the Christ descended according to the flesh. God, who is over all, be praised forever. Amen.
  The verse is by use of a period split into 2 sentences.

  Check here http://biblehub.com/multi/romans/9-5.htm to see how other bibles translate this. About all of them translate it as one sentence.
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  New songs coming

  by kneehighmiah in

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  2. friends

  heard from an inside source that there are 3 new songs coming to the songbook.

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  Londo111, what do you mean with this "

  Maybe they want everyone to tradein their songbooks...because of the graphic artwork on the backcover...

  This might be a good excuse without bringing attention to it.

  What is peculiar abou the graphic on the backcover?
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  Has anybody ever co-related what Jewish scholars beleive about the Hebrew scriptures and what jehovahs Witnesses beleive ?

  by smiddy in

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  i`m just curious as to how different they may be.. smiddy.

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  kaik, any written support on these points?
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  My Elderette returns for a final Bible Study session, after I avoided her for 2 months (very long post)

  by Faithful Witness in

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  2. bible

  some of this will be repeat, since it's been a little while since i posted about my "bible study" sessions with miss k, my elderette.

  we are talking about the name of jehovah.

  thanks for talking with us today.

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  FW, the only reason why I feel "sad" the study is over is because I know have to miss your excellent wrting skills. I really enjoyed the way you presented your experience, your choice of words, never too offensive, always respectful but still to the point, with a flavour of humour.

  Thanks
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  Can anyone disprove 607 BCE date using only the NWT and WT literature?

  by Bart Belteshassur in

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  2. bible

  i haven't come across any arguement that does not involve secular history and external references.

  in fact the wt can not get to 607 bce without using external sources as in knowing that they need to get back from 1914 ce to 607 bce, and botching an argument using an external date as reference to create their start point at 537 bce.. i realize that to get the final date we must provide a fixed figure from somewhere which can only be a historical source, but the objective would be to disprove the wt flim flam.

  once that is achieve we can use which ever fixed historical point they wish to chose.

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  Island Man, I guess you are correct. Regardless the official doctrine one is challenging with scriptural proof, most JW's will disregard. They will say: you are wrong, you have to wait for insight, pray for more knowledge, in due course you will see etc.

  Well, so be it.
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  STARTING OVER with my Elderette - What Does the Bible REALLY Teach?

  by Faithful Witness in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  she said, "so, what made you decide to study this book?

  at this point, she opened with a prayer.

  "...and some decide that such questions are best left to religious leaders and teachers.

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  NeverKnew, sorry but I disagree. As I read the 2 paragraphs, they do not contradict. In both it explains bad things do not come from God, it is not God's will.