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  What if .... some thoughts

  by menrov in

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  ok, to start, i no longer believe the scriptures are inspired.

  may be some writers were influenced but that does not mean all what they wrote was correct.

  does this mean there is no creator?

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  @stan livedeath
  Thank you for your advice. I am not worrying at all and am enjoying my life. However, for those that are struggling to make up their mind or like to hear other viewpoints, I decided to share. If I can help only one person, it was worth the effort.
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  What if .... some thoughts

  by menrov in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok, to start, i no longer believe the scriptures are inspired.

  may be some writers were influenced but that does not mean all what they wrote was correct.

  does this mean there is no creator?

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  OK, to start, I no longer believe the scriptures are inspired. May be some writers were influenced but that does not mean all what they wrote was correct. As such, it is my view that none of the so-called religious scriptures (Christian, Islam etc) are inspired by a higher power. Does this mean there is no creator? Should I therefore believe in evolution?

  What if .... both is true? I mean, you have a creator and things have evolved over time? The earth is very old and plants/trees as well. So is animal life. And most likely human life.

  Religious people in general believe that humans were created in one-go, completely, no failures. Well, why would a creator leave the earth useless for so long? Pure evolution (i.e. big bang) would mean that suddenly everything was there in order to develop into a human being without failure or shortcomings and would also be able to reproduce immediately....what are the odds?
  BUT...what if a creator made various efforts to develop something that in the end became a human being? The creator had many years available to allow trial and error. And WHAT IF these efforts would have taken place on various parts of the earth? Why rely only on one human being knowing that many things can go wrong?

  In other words, WHAT IF life is the result of creation but has evolved over million years in order to become a human being as we know it? In my view, it does explain a lot, for example why we do become older but are still not capable to beat certain bacteria or viruses.

  Anyway...wanted to share... :-)
  
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  2019-11-25-BOE--Watchtower Wants More Money!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  2019-11-25-boe.

  donations in support of kingdom interests worldwidehttps://docdro.id/mqpxklf petra!

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  The economic landscape continues to deteriorate for most, and we know this results in additional pressure as you work to
  provide for your basic needs.Nevertheless, we see evidence that this does not hinder your efforts to ‘abound in kind giving.’

  So, for most, current times mean additional pressure just to provide basic needs. But....do not see this as a hinder to abound in kind giving. In other words, we do not care that you suffer under more pressure. We will not help you but you must help us......
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  2--New Talks--If you Want them!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  2 new talks if you want them.. .

  2019-s-34-e-38--how can you survive the end of the world.

  https://docdro.id/knfjplo.

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  in Whose leadership can you trust? the put in last section:

  By accepting Christ Jesus’ leadership and “obeying him,”

  Why is OBEYING HIM in quotes? If Jesus is supposed to be your leader, then one should obey, without quotes......

  Very peculiar.
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  November 2019 Watchtower (Would love to hear the comments in the hall)

  by pleaseresearch in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  from the november 2019 watchtower study edition.. how many of you would like to know what the brothers and sisters would respond to this question.

  also, if you went into a hall how would you like to respond to the question.. 8. how should we respond to lies?.

  8 satan, “the father of the lie,” uses those under his control to spread lies about jehovah and about our brothers and sisters.

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  of course they never print some of those "lies" as examples. "Lies" about CSA handling and court cases, about wrong doctrines (too many to mention here), about dishonesty in the organisation etc.

  Pfff......
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  Whatever is bound on EARTH is already Loosed in Heaven

  by Alex Williams in

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  2. beliefs

  when a person is guilty and worthy of punishment, the judgment ‘will already have been bound in heaven jesus said and if they are loosed or innocent it will already have been “loosed in heaven..in such judicial deliberations, jesus says, “where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there i am in their midst.” .

  psalm 127:3.. children are a sacred trust, “an inheritance from jehovah.

  jws abhor child abuse and view it as a crime.its recognized that the authorities are responsible for addressing such crimes.jws do not shield any perpetrator of child abuse from the authorities as has been alleged.

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  All religions are from men. Even the scriptures were written (and copied/rewritten) by men. They all claim to be approved by their God. Religion means power for its leaders. And they all try to.hide their (serious) mistakes and crimes. So, the community can only depend on non-religious organisations to uncover those hidden crimes. Priests or elders or vicars are all employed by their leaders. They serve the organization else they will be removed from their position.

  In the world we have something like Intellectual Property and patents, setup to protect the originator that his/her ideas are not copied. If the scriptures should lead to Gods approval, would it not be good that God made sure people could rely on ONE source, that is clearly identified as coming from God, beyond a doubt? As this is not the case, people cannot rely on religion as they all have used the void to present themselves as "true" and have assumes a position of power.

  The WT has created its own world and believe that they are above the authorities. The same the Roman Catholic Church had made. None of these so-called religious worlds are any better than the world outside religion.

  It is up to humans to fix things. Those who wait on their God to act or fix things are guilty for allowing bad things to continue to happen. People will have to act to protect the weak, the meek, the innocent. Progress has been made but still a lot to do.
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  Who else provides all this spiritual food?

  by StephaneLaliberte in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  two days ago, i experienced a spiritual epiphany while visiting the library of a catholic university: i was shocked to find thousands of religious literatures produced by the catholics and protestants in the last few hundred years.

  someone could easily spend a secluded lifetime trying to read them all.

  for years, i was told by my religious leaders (jws) that the catholics and other religions did not provide spiritual food to their members.

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  Regardless the denomination, why write so much? Would the scriptures not be enough? Unless the aim is to control and confuse people by writing so many books etc.
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  People from the Netherlands?

  by Alies21 in

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  my name is alies.

  i was wondering if there are people here from the netherlands.

  have a good day.

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  #metoo in Nederland
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  Jehovah will lovingly Erase the Memories of Your Dead love Ones From Your Mind!foyarse e

  by The Bethelite in

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  i know i would be miserable if i could remember all my dead relatives.

  all my dead children, parents all my worldly family members and friends, yes and the billions of other people too.

  all the people jehovah will be killing off in the years to come.

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  Then the expression "see you in paradise" is hollow as you would not remember anyone anymore.
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  JUNE 2019 Watchtower: Higher Education - HQ & Bethels are populated with evil, educated folks!

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  how alienated from jehovah and un-christian so many bethelites must be, who finished their higher education and gained their degrees!

  i don't know how they can live with their consciences!.

  pages 6 & 7, pars.

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  The point is not that higher (what is higher??) or academic studies are good or not, the point is it is not up to the WT to generate fear. It is a personal decision. And if the WT would step in when a member has no job nor income because he lacks a study, then I would find it acceptable. But the happy few at the top benefit of all the millions donated by people who have good income. Hypocrites.