Personally I took notes for two reasons:
1. So I didn't get yelled at on the drive home by my mother.
2. As I got older I realized taking notes was the only real way to keep me awake and prevent the occasional nodding off.
Pattytheperfectone
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Audience Contact - Use of notes
by mikeypants inwell, no audience contact but i am talking about use of notes.
i always wondered about note taking at conventions and assemblies.
why does this happen?
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Marriage outside the religion punishable?
by Pattytheperfectone innow i know they have always discouraged marrying outside of their so called 'truth' but since when has it been a punishable offense?
my sister recently married and they are discussing wether her being married to an outsider will stumble others and if they need to reprove or disfellowship her for it..
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My sister still believes most the religion but has been in and out since she was 18. among other things she has done she had a child without being married during the 6 years she was inactive. they let her come back with no restrictions of 'privileges' so I was just shocked that after they accepted her crazy past with no punishment her being married was something they felt they needed to discuss further and decide repricussions. It makes me much more angry and offended than it does her being that she still believes the religion is the truth. If they are giving her crap about being married to a non believer I'm surprised they haven't said anything to her about associating with me. Maybe being that I moved a couple hours away and no one but my sister knows how I truly feel means that subject won't come up with the elders. i know how my family feels being that no one but my sister will talk to me...they probably partially blame me for her 'evil ways'.
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Marriage outside the religion punishable?
by Pattytheperfectone innow i know they have always discouraged marrying outside of their so called 'truth' but since when has it been a punishable offense?
my sister recently married and they are discussing wether her being married to an outsider will stumble others and if they need to reprove or disfellowship her for it..
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Now I know they have always discouraged marrying outside of their so called 'truth' but since when has it been a punishable offense? My sister recently married and they are discussing wether her being married to an outsider will stumble others and if they need to reprove or disfellowship her for it.
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JWs target retirement homes
by Scully inin a recent post (http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/67537/1051937/post.ashx#1051937) new directives to congregations by the wts included: it also suggests that the owners of all local old folks homes be contacted to provide a "free weekly bible discussion" to all elderly who want to attend in the home.
this is to be a planned weekly event to increase the number of studys pioneers hold and "provide a valuable service to the community" the society expect to see bible studies go up by 25% this year.. .
well, it is nice for us to get this heads up from the brothers?, isn't it?
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While the proposed monthly meeting at nursing homes is a new thing targeting these nursing homes for studies is nothing new, at least not in the congregation I was raised in. There was always one or two pioneer sisters that regularly trolled nursing homes looking for new people to 'study' with. I remember being a little girl drug along on these trips and being scared of Some of the dementia/Alzheimer's patients. I also remember the 'studies' that even at a young age I could totally tell only accepted and went along because they wanted someone to talk and visit with. Even if the studies were pointless I always felt that at least for that 30 minutes each week that person didn't feel alone.
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My husband takes medical marijuana in order to not take so many opioid pain killers; his father with the same condition died in his 40's from too many painkillers harming his liver among other issues. Needless to say, I much prefer the pot to an early death of my husband. My mother told me she understood and that the JW's were ok with it as long as it was medical and he had a prescription...this was at a time in my life when I had decided I was going to give the religion a chance after years out and my mom was trying to convince my husband to jump on the crazy train with me. My attempt to rejoin was short lived and as soon as my mom realized that, she told my sister how sad she was that WE chose smoking marijuana (my husband does with a dr's recommendation, not I) over serving Jehovah and that she would have to limit her contact with me again. Not a word to me or even a phone call, just judgement. So supposedly it's ok, but only if you attend their 'not a church' Kingdom Hall.
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Aren't You Glad That You Are Out Of The JW Religion?
by minimus ini am so happy to be out of the cult.
i would never go back!
i don't know some still could accept this religion, be here, regularly and not just get out..
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After many years out feeling guilty and blaming myself for my families 'limited contact' due to my sinning ways I am finally guilt free and extremely glad I no longer believe I am going to die with all the 'evil worldly people'. Finding TTATT was the scariest anger inducing experience for me, yet also the most liberating thing ever!!
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Birthday Cake Ice Ceam
by Pattytheperfectone inmy sister recently went back to the witness religion and has a precious 4 year old boy.
he is the most adorable little boy, as all children are at that age.
i respect my sisters decision to go back to the religion, i cringe and don't like it but it's her decision to make.
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I've been out for 14 years but only accepted the wackiness and untruth of the religion 2 years ago after reading Crisis of Conscious (How I came across that book after so long out is kind of amusing). Until I read that book and started reading online I always felt a little guilty for celebrating holidays and birthdays. In fact for the first three years I actually celebrated holidays I ALWAYS got miserably sick when the holiday came around and I used to think it was Jehovah punishing me. I still don't make a big deal out of my birthday but my tradition of a quiet night at home with my husband cooking me dinner and eating an amazing Cold Stone ice cream birthday cake no longer has a single ounce of guilt attached to it!
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Birthday Cake Ice Ceam
by Pattytheperfectone inmy sister recently went back to the witness religion and has a precious 4 year old boy.
he is the most adorable little boy, as all children are at that age.
i respect my sisters decision to go back to the religion, i cringe and don't like it but it's her decision to make.
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Rocky Road, Cookies & Cream, Mint Chocolate Chip...I love ice cream! :-)
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Birthday Cake Ice Ceam
by Pattytheperfectone inmy sister recently went back to the witness religion and has a precious 4 year old boy.
he is the most adorable little boy, as all children are at that age.
i respect my sisters decision to go back to the religion, i cringe and don't like it but it's her decision to make.
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My sister recently went back to the witness religion and has a precious 4 year old boy. He is the most adorable little boy, as all children are at that age. I respect my sisters decision to go back to the religion, I cringe and don't like it but it's her decision to make. She needs the closeness with her family to be ok, and I get that. Well, I live a couple of hours from my sister and the rest of the family so I don't get to see my nephew that often. I called my sister and asked if I could take my nephew for 4 days to spend time with him, I even made sure that I picked him up the week after easter so I wouldn't offend the family (funny thing is he missed easter but he gets to go to a birthday party tomorrow!). Well, I was at the store with him today stocking up on candy and ice cream for the weekend. I love spoiling kids! I forgot about the witness no birthday thing, silly me I know, and I asked him if he wanted birthday cake ice cream. His response was immediately, 'We don't celebrate', very adamently. My heart sank...just one of those annoying reminders that there will be a time when my precious little nephew is going to worry about whether he should talk to me or whether I am going to die when the whole world gets killed except Jehovah's Witnesses. That an ice cream is what reminded me of that is pretty pathetic if you ask me. I know my sister doesn't judge me, and we don't talk religion because I don't want to offend and she doesn't want to offend but at times she says or does things that just make me want to scream...'ARE YOU INSANE, DO YOU NOT HEAR THE PSYCHO BABBLE COMING OUT OF YOUR MOUTH!'. She in passing mentioned that at the last couple assemblies there has been a talk about obeying the elders and trusting in god. Something about if an elder got up on stage and told them to leave the assembly and run to the mountains and forbade them to call family members to warn or pick up children or other family members on the way would they have the 'faith' to listen? Although I know my sister, she wouldn't listen to a single human being telling her to leave her son behind, but to even mention that statment and not immediately afterwards say how crazy it is just makes me shake my head in wonderment. Anyways, I almost bought a 50% off easter basket just to spite my crazy kool aid drinking sister. I ended up just getting him more candy though, that's what he requested and he has one of those can't say no to faces.
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First post after a year or two of lurking on this site-Sorry for the length!
by Pattytheperfect1 innot sure of the point of telling my story, but just got off the phone with my grandma and i am so angry, stressed and i don't know what else...i guess i just wanted to hear from someone other than my husband that i'm not crazy for my reaction to family interaction.. my condensed story gramatical errors and all :).
father was a born in jw, mother was a convert.
i was born the last of 3 siblings and shortly after my birth in 1981 my parents divorced.
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I meant to respond much sooner but I had issues with my account and it wouldn't let me sign in. I created a new one when I got around to it and am just now getting a chance to sit and respond. I want to thank everyone for their kind comments. I was just venting, something my husband hears lots of! I was by no means trying upstage or lessen anyone elses life...i've been through a lot but there are tons that have had it just as bad if not worse. I don't feel like I need special attention or praise for being strong because my family is a bunch of jerks. So many comments about how I've been through so much and I'm so strong for coming out ok (from people on here and anyone that happens to hear about my past) and yet I feel so far from strong. I get by, and I enjoy my life but only by pretending that my past doesn't exist. Not the healthiest way of dealing but hey, it works for me...until I'm forced to acknowledge I have a family then I go through a week or two or maybe a month of being moody and kind of mean to my husband (he really is amazing for putting up with me at times!!). Also, so many angry heated comments about my uncle/dad...I guess I shouldn't expect any different but that wasn't what I was going for. I mean I hate him for what he did, I don't want anything to do with him now, but the anger and hate I read isn't how I feel. In fact things my aunt-mom SAID to me hurt and damaged me as much as things he DID to me. Sometimes I feel like something is wrong with me because of that but it's how I feel. I have two parents that abandoned me and two parents that abused me, I have yet to figure out which one hurt me most in the long run. I try not to dwell on it and I really don't hate any of them. As confusing and wierd as it is I can think of good things about each family member, even the ones that hurt me in so many different horrible ways. Not one person is pure evil to me, and no matter what they've done to me they have done other things in their life to help and make other peoples lives better. They will get what is coming to them when god judges them, I find comfort in that. As for my uncle-dad now, he is never alone around kids, and none of my cousin-siblings have little girls so I don't worry about him doing it again. Plus he's a coward. I'm sure some would feel i'm being naive and should 'punish him' by telling the police but that wouldn't make me feel better and I don't feel any of the children he is allowed around are in harms way. And as far as blaming elders, other than the one elder with the stupid insensitive comment, the elders had nothing to do with my problem. I blame no one but my parents, and even through my blame and anger, there is still some sort of wierd affection for them as they are my parents. Just because I care doesn't mean I agree with them or don't hate what they have done but it is what it is. Now if I felt a child was in danger, that's another story. Like my niece, my biological older brothers daughter, that looks just like me when I was little; my grandma has asked me to bring her to visit so she can see her great grandchild but I can't bring myself to put that precious little girl anywhere that my uncle-dad could even set eyes on her. A few asked if I ever reunited with my biological family...the answer is yes. It is akward at times. I have two biological brothers and two half brothers and a mom that I try to have relationships with. My two biological brothers are pretty easy to talk to but after a lifetime apart from my mom and half brothers its hard to be close with them. I love them all, and having the family that loves me UNCONDITIONALLY has made things easier for sure, but it still doesn't lessen the hurt of losing my family I grew up with.