Now all that is needed is a paradise promise of, oh say, 72 virgins,
and I think we've got ourselves a religion, boys!
berrygerry
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If you thought Tony Moris the Third was extreme, wait till you hear this other GB member!
by Island Man inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqzc2m8_mba&list=uus0vqkpnsxult0gsz6ahpta.
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Pastor Russell demoted to Brother Russell
by berrygerry inin the reading room, and noticed in the god's kingdoms' rules, rules, and more rules book.. brother charles taze russell and brother russell.. never noticed him being called brother russell before..
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berrygerry
In the reading room, and noticed in the God's Kingdoms' Rules, Rules, and More Rules book.
Brother Charles Taze Russell and Brother Russell.
Never noticed him being called Brother Russell before.
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TUTORIAL: Proving the GB and Watch Tower is guilty
by Terry inq: are you willing to admit the gb and the wts is wrong if the facts go against them?.
proof text.
proof text:.
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berrygerry
I had one Pioneer brother tell me that Jehovah purposely allowed the false prophecy of 1975 to be taught by the WT in order to weed out those in the Organization that were not loyal. That is cognizant dissonance on steroids! Cult members will justify their leaders evil actions because seeing the facts can be too painful.
That WTS Jehovah.
Such a prankster.
He should start a TV prank show.
(Greenlees and a Catholic priest can bless marriages - the priest with the bride, and Greenlees with the groom - all on PPV)
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Jehovah's Witnesses on vaccination (let's remember)
by opusdei1972 inthis a excerpt from the article "the sacredness of human blood (why vaccination is unscriptural)", the golden age, february 4, 1931, page 294.. .
the following is an excerpt from the article: "vaccination---why not?
", the golden age, february 4, 1931, page 298.. .
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berrygerry
Actually, better quotes (especially remember the "filthy pus") from jwfacts
http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/medical.php#vaccinations
Vaccinations
From 1921 to 1952, the Golden Age presented information against vaccinations. To cement this viewpoint in the minds of followers, vaccinations were described as worthless, harmful from a medical standpoint, and morally wrong from a biblical standpoint.
"Vaccination never prevented anything and never will, and is the most barbarous practice...We are in the last days; and the devil is slowly losing his hold, making a strenuous effort meanwhile to do all the damage he can, and to his credit can such evils be placed. ... Use your rights as American citizens to forever abolish the devilish practice of vaccinations." Golden Age 1921 Oct 12 p.17
"Thinking people would rather have smallpox than vaccination, because the latter sows the seed of syphilis, cancers, escema, erysipelas, scrofula, consumption, even leprosy and many other loathsome affections. Hence the practice of vaccination is a crime, an outrage and a delusion." Golden Age 1929 May 1 p.502
"Avoid serum inoculations and vaccinations as they pollute the blood stream with their filthy pus." Golden Age 1929 Nov 13 pp.106-107
This was partially supported on the basis that blood byproducts could not be used.
"Vaccination is a direct violation of the everlasting covenant that God made with Noah after the flood." Golden Age 1931 Feb 4 p.293
"Of all the inventions that have been foisted upon mankind for their defilement the most subtly devilish is that of vaccination." Ibid p.295
The Golden Age 1931, February 4 issue devoted 10 pages to why vaccinations were not for Christians. The index page to the 1931 article claimed this as the viewpoint of the Creator.
A series of images further enforced the point.
Golden Age 1932 Mar 30 p.409
Golden Age 1939 May 31 p.5The cartoon picture above shows dead and pock marked babies below a clergy like representation. In reality, it was vaccinations that practically eliminated small pox. With little medical knowledge, the society went about using scare tactics to convince the people that vaccinations were wrong. This resulted in some Witness children being barred from schools in America for refusing vaccinations.
Legal concerns seem to be a factor behind the Watchtower Society reversing its position and allowing vaccinations from the 1950's.
"The matter of vaccination is one for the individual that has to face it to decide for himself... And our Society cannot afford to be drawn into the affair legally or take the responsibility for the way the case turns out." Watchtower 1952 Dec 15 p.764
Did Holy Spirit direct the Society to decree vaccinations were unchristian for a period of time, and later say they were acceptable? For followers who are trained to accept everything coming from the Organization as food from Jehovah, this has potentially led to needless loss of Witness lives.
In 1993 the following was written, and whilst strictly correct it can be understood in light of what appears above to be quite misleading.
"Previous articles in this journal and its companion, The Watchtower, have presented a consistent position: It would be up to the Bible-trained conscience of the individual Christian as to whether he would accept [vaccinations] for himself and his family." Awake! 1993 Aug 8 p.25
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Jehovah's Witnesses on vaccination (let's remember)
by opusdei1972 inthis a excerpt from the article "the sacredness of human blood (why vaccination is unscriptural)", the golden age, february 4, 1931, page 294.. .
the following is an excerpt from the article: "vaccination---why not?
", the golden age, february 4, 1931, page 298.. .
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berrygerry
BTW, I do not see the images of the references.
There is a post at: http://www.vaccineriskawareness.com/Vaccines-A-Religious-Contention-
JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES
Jehovah’s Witnesses have historically been against vaccination because it is contrary to scriptures, and their religion totally banned it up until 1952, although in more recent years they have stated it is up to the individual Jehovah’s Witness to decide: "As vaccination is a direct injection of animal matter in the blood stream, vaccination is a direct violation of the law of Jehovah God." (The Golden Age publication, 1935 April 2 p. 465).
"Oh, yes, serums vaccines, toxins, inoculations, are all -harmless', because the man who is selling them says so. You, my friends, believe this LIE, and continue to submit your body to these violations; then all I can say is, 'God have mercy on your soul'. All vaccination is unphysiological, a crime against nature." (Consolation 1939 May 31 p. 8).‘Would it be proper to accept a vaccination or some other medical injection containing albumin derived from human blood? Witnesses have long realized (Interesting wording - not "the GB", but "Witnesses" realized - does that mean that Witnesses are able to realize things on their own) that this is a matter for private decision in accord with each one’s Bible-trained conscience. Some Christians who feel that they can in good conscience accept such injections have noted that antibodies from the blood of a pregnant woman cross into the blood of the baby in her womb.” (The Watchtower, October 1, 1994).
The reason for this about turn? In 1952, when Jehovah’s Witnesses lifted the ban on vaccination, they wrote: "The matter of vaccination is one for the individual that has to face it to decide for himself. . . . And our Society cannot afford to be drawn into the affair legally or take the responsibility for the way the case turns out." (my emphasis – The Watchtower, 15 December 1952).
Essentially they still disagreed with vaccination but were too afraid of the medical profession taking legal action against them.
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Jehovah's Witnesses on vaccination (let's remember)
by opusdei1972 inthis a excerpt from the article "the sacredness of human blood (why vaccination is unscriptural)", the golden age, february 4, 1931, page 294.. .
the following is an excerpt from the article: "vaccination---why not?
", the golden age, february 4, 1931, page 298.. .
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berrygerry
W.H.Conley - thank you for the post.
Vaccinations have always bothered me so much.
The OPOMC was always opposed to vaccinations.
Having my daughter suffer through chickenpox makes me so angry.
Knowing that she will, at some point, subsequently experience shingles, makes me angrier.
Knowing many JW's who have shingles, including the OPOMC, is criminally stupid.
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Perfect Relationship, He Still Broke Up With Me
by tiff21390 inlast month, my best friend of four years and boyfriend of six months came home from a jehovah's witness convention.
he'd been acting strangely the entire weekend and i knew something was wrong.
i initiated a discussion and he said, "essentially our relationship is wrong and i'm not supposed to be with you.
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berrygerry
I feel very sorry for your situation.
There are a number of very kind, experienced females on this forum.
I would stick around for their posts.
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Pioner book 2014
by abner insorry my bad englich i need the new book for pioners , edition 2014 !
in pdf or doc, please!
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berrygerry
At the next meeting, I would recommend asking the Literature Department to place an order.
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INSTAGRAM "greatest month of witnessing" etc...
by stuckinarut2 inoh wow!....
i have seen some really pathetic instagram posts today..... so many have posted pictures of "all of us out in service in the greatest month of witnessing ever camapign"..... there are slide shows, with snapshots of old and very young in service handing out leaflets etc... it is really quite sad to see the hype building up!.
anyone else seen such things?.
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berrygerry
Blondie.
Don't give out ideas.
The '97 reference - the good news "announced" - via the internet, but not in person.
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Can anyone give me any advice on how to get rid of cockroaches?
by Jeannette ini have sprayed, i have bug bombed, i have sprayed some more.
i threw things out i thought that they might have a nest in.
i soaked some things in hot water all day.
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berrygerry
You probably have old literature in your house.
Cockroaches do not like new light.
Substitute the old literature (older than 2 months) with some that is newer. ; )