Okay, I found a 78 WT which says that the 1000 year reign did not begin in 1914, but begins at Armageddon.
What was taught regarding this pre-1914 (or should I bother asking)?
the thread about satan in the abyss for 1000 years prompts a question.. jesus will rule for 1000 years.. jesus began ruling in 1914, which means his 1000 year reign will end in 2914.. satan will be abyssed for 1000 years.. if the end comes in 2020, satan will be abyssed in 2020, and then released in 3020.. what happens between 2914 and 3020?.
honest question..
Okay, I found a 78 WT which says that the 1000 year reign did not begin in 1914, but begins at Armageddon.
What was taught regarding this pre-1914 (or should I bother asking)?
the thread about satan in the abyss for 1000 years prompts a question.. jesus will rule for 1000 years.. jesus began ruling in 1914, which means his 1000 year reign will end in 2914.. satan will be abyssed for 1000 years.. if the end comes in 2020, satan will be abyssed in 2020, and then released in 3020.. what happens between 2914 and 3020?.
honest question..
The official WT position is that even though Christ has been ruling for 100 years already, this is not part of the 1,000 year reign.
I have a book that says God's Kingdom Rules - and has been doing so for 100 years.
So, this a different Kingdom, then, from Jesus' Kingdom of 1,000 years?
deuteronomy 22;20-22 stone to death.
a little extreme don't.
come on jehovah, what changed your mind??.
This is a stupid thread.
do you feel the counseling demands placed on elders are fair and scriptural?.
i live in an economically depressed industial city.
my dad is an elder in a lower income black congregation.
The CO told me that Jehovah was using my husband now and I could have him in the new system which was going to happen very soon. That was 25 years ago now.
Priceless!
i saw on another forum that the trademark application for the 'jw.org' logo had been denied by the trademark office.
it is too similar to the logo of another company.
there is an appeals process that presumably gives the watchtower a chance to get the decision reversed.
the wife and i had a argument of all things, the correct way.
to peel an egg.. i'm making tuna salad and she comes up.
and looking over my shoulder, "you know that's not the correct.
Women, Please give us men a little credi ... mmmm, boooobs......
auxillary pioneers get mini praise.. .
regular pioneers are an exampe to follow.. .
half useless men are recommended as ministerials servants.. .
Most are aware that retail type of enterprises are desparate for managers and assistant managers.
These positions ALWAYS pay less per hour than the employees of same enterprise.
So, who want ever want to accept such a promotion (when in real terms, it is a demotion)?
Those who receive some sort of gratification by having "a position" and some semblance of "authority."
It is no different than being in awe of the "manager" of the local 7-11.
i know it's a completely absurd thing to say, but something happened to me today that triggered the old cult reaction.
my mind instantly lapsed back into that of a jw and for a split second i thought that because i wasn't doing jehovah things that jehovah's blessing had been removed from me and this is why my life seems to be running into so many dead-ends.
as a jw i attributed anything good happening to me to being the result of my being a good jw and dutifully doing everything the borg teaches.
A few weeks later I got the best job I've ever had. Full benefits, pension, great people, interesting work etc. Then the economy fell apart a few months later and while thousands were getting laid off all over the City, I got a big raise. I then began to wonder in the back of my mind if Satan was helping me !! I realized that they (JW's) had it set up so that whether things were going well or going badly, you could find a way to blame it on some magical outside force.
I ALWAYS wrestled with Matt. 6:33 and the tests of Job. Are they not contradictory?
The lesson of Job - if you serve God, you will receive tests of immense suffering and deprivation.
Jesus said if you serve God, don't sweat it, everything will fall into place.
I've asked many experienced elders and the OPOMC this dichotomy.
Over DECADES, never a satisfactory answer.
One sincere, ex-missionary that I respected - I shared a quote that I love: "If I would have known that life would give me what I asked, I would have asked for more." (Sadly, he said: "That's a worldly quote")
Life IS what you make it.
PERIOD.
when you were at bethel..what sucked most ?breakfast/daytext/table overseer.monday night wt studytuesdays bookstudy at one of the local cong.wednesday evening fieldservicethursdays parts on the service meetingfridays "family evening" / evening fieldservicesaturdays quick build hall construction assistancesundays field service/meeting/late supperdaily sisters housekeeping/snooping through your possessionscar poolsallowance daylaundry day / missing clothing / badly sewed clothingboring libraryfarm duty !!!
stalls vs $#it vs gardeninginking the press!digging/carpentry/bricklaying/box packing/loadingnasty crotch grabbin roomiesnot gettin sum..except nasty looks from roomieslousy infermary (basic asprin cures all !!!
)longest pompous a$$ prayers going on and on and on....old anointed bro's ..that pee themselves and need help !assembly sound duty omg!food service overseeingparking attendant workapostate lookout/security work (it does exist guys !
I always wondered about the logistics of so many in one location, needing to attend congos far away.
At least in Brooklyn, you have transit.
What is it like now, as well as when everything in Brooklyn is gone?
the thread about satan in the abyss for 1000 years prompts a question.. jesus will rule for 1000 years.. jesus began ruling in 1914, which means his 1000 year reign will end in 2914.. satan will be abyssed for 1000 years.. if the end comes in 2020, satan will be abyssed in 2020, and then released in 3020.. what happens between 2914 and 3020?.
honest question..
The thread about Satan in the abyss for 1000 years prompts a question.
Jesus will rule for 1000 years.
Jesus began ruling in 1914, which means his 1000 year reign will end in 2914.
Satan will be abyssed for 1000 years.
If the end comes in 2020, Satan will be abyssed in 2020, and then released in 3020.
What happens between 2914 and 3020?
Honest question.