“But where the Bible is silent, we must be silent,” said Brother Splane.
Except when we decide to make up BorgSpeak.
http://www.jw.Borg/en/jehovahs-witnesses/activities/events/annual-meeting-report-2014/
the verses say one thing, the org says it means something entirely different.. (matthew 24:34) "truly i say to you that this generation will by no means pass away until all these things happen.
w14 1/15 p. 31 par.
15 - "we understand that in mentioning "this generation," jesus was referring to two groups of anointed christians.
“But where the Bible is silent, we must be silent,” said Brother Splane.
Except when we decide to make up BorgSpeak.
http://www.jw.Borg/en/jehovahs-witnesses/activities/events/annual-meeting-report-2014/
just wanted to say hello since i am new to this forum.
allow myself to introduce myself.
lol.
Congrats on learning TTATT, and hopefully, reconciling with your wife.
If you continue to be reasonable and loving and show a genuine interest in your wife and kids and their welfare, without demanding she chuck everything she believes in right way, you may "win her over without a word."
Couldn't say it better.
mr. magnani reports his conversation with pres.
fred franz, and queries him about eve being created in the same year as adam.. he refers franz to the aid book, (topic: eve - p. 538) which states that: .
at the age of 130 another son was born to her.
Mr. Magnani reports his conversation with Pres. Fred Franz, and queries him about Eve being created in the same year as Adam.
He refers Franz to the Aid book, (Topic: Eve - p. 538) which states that:
At the age of 130 another son was born to her. Eve called his name Seth ...
The Insight book changes this to Adam as being 130.
my wife is really getting on my case about not being spiritual and leading the family spiritually.
at this point, i really dont go to meetings anymore nor do i have the desire to go.
i guess its not enough that i work 50 hours a week and pay the majority of the household bills with no complaints.
Do you have kids, and if so, about what age(s)?
The Borg pushes a fantasy family life that is simply unattainable.
Any anxiety will be shifted from your wife onto you.
I would start with asking her to read and meditate on 1 Timothy 5:8
"as servants of jehovah, we are not among those who are misled.
we know that the devil is real, for it was satan who spoke to eve through a serpent.
" - watchtower, may 15, 2015, page 15, #3.. someone should do a meme depicting a nutter/paranoid/delusional character saying this.
Bad happens because Satan exists.
We know that Satan exists because bad happens.
It's not complicated, and only Satan would want us to think differently - so think properly.
its been mentioned before that warwick is a toxic dump and now the jw's are suing a former owner for compensation.
well this is huge on so many levels.
one they new it was contaminated back a few years ago so why move your headquarters there?
. I wouldn't expect any other multi-million dollar global corporate to act any differently.
The difference is that WT has a free lawyer pool at their beck and call.
Makes a huge difference in your litigation (and response) strategy.
long before i woke up as a born in, this never, i mean never ever had any good explanation for me, or not even a bad one.
the jws seem to have an explanation for everything even if it is bat shit cray, but the logic to this i have never been given.
if you ask did god put satan there to test/tempt whatever adam and eve, the answer would be of course not!
According to WT theology, it would take ONLY ONE perfect man to remain loyal to Jehovah under test.
Jesus did that, and answered the challenge.
Why therefore must every perfect human be tested after the 1,000 years?
Makes no sense.
Also, should not ALL humans be likewise tested - children born after the 1,000 years?
Are all humans going to be submitted to an annual performance review to determine their worthiness to continue alive?
Sounds pretty sci-fi to me.
well there are lots of reason for sure, denial, delusion, wishful thinking, ego maniac, infantile understanding of ancient writings, satanophobia, xenophobia, out of touch with reality, limited choices scrapping the bottom of the barrel,and many more.. listen to this ted talk and see if you can pick out something that helps explain why these guys are such ass holes:.
organizations are often run according to the superchicken model, where the value is placed on star employees who outperform others.
and yet, this isnt what drives the most high-achieving teams.
I do have to wonder sometimes if there is something to the rumors that the GB are just figureheads and someone else is calling the shots.
There is no question that they are figureheads.
Splane and Sanderson are the only ones with an IQ over 90.
There is absolutely no question that this is a corporation run by outside interests.
just recently i've been thinking about trying to talk about ttatt to my father.
i'm just trying to find an opportunity.
i know he will never leave it - or i would be surprised if he did.
Agree with Wendy.
Mind control is amazingly powerful.
Read Steven Hassan's book(s) FIRST.
Also, http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/helping-someone-leave.php
i've spent the last 6 months or so really in depth into ttatt, really angry at times, cursing the cult that is the wts led by the fds, and today i feel like i've found a new fire.
i'd been completely opposed to listening to anything to do with the organization, but today i watched the brie video on youtube, young high school girl pouring her heart out in opposition of the wts and its practices.. from there, i found jwstruggle on youtube, johncedars, and derekohare... it's just a wonderful thing finding people willing to out the wts for what it is.
i had felt such anger, like, they're getting away with their bologna, but to see people like this making stands against the wts is an amazing source of hope.. besides forums such as this, what have you found that helped you?.
jwfacts.com and Crisis of Conscience
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw (younger, a bit crude, group - different than here)