Hey, sorry Zen, having an emotional night, didn't mean to attack you. I see the point you're getting at. Just feeling very angry tonight.
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How do we stop feeling like exjws?
by Brummie ini dont know.
today i had an episode of dissociation, the feeling of being totally disconnected from everything and everyone.
as if all of a sudden i knew no one or wasnt connected to anyone.
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Did You Think "Jehovah" Was Responsible For Everything Good In Your Life?
by minimus ini've heard all my life, that anytime something good happened, we should thank jehovah for doing it.
if something bad happened, like being attacked by the "demons", it was because a person didn't have the complete "suit of armor" from god.
i know many of the "friends" that credit jehovah god for giving them a sunny morning, a pay raise at work or an end to their cough and cold.....were you one of those that believed jehovah was behind everything that happened in your life?
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No, I felt that big J didn't really care much, or else our strict JW family wouldn't have been homeless for 6 years, and my parents would have cared for me more. I always felt that, if these are big J's people, and this is what he does for them, why the hell would I want to be a part of it??? When I got older and left the "troof", I finally realized that big J had nothing to do with all of it, and that was actually what led me to have a relationship with God!!!!
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Is Sex All Men Think About?
by tyydyy infor instance: .
car - guys look for a car that will attract women.
so they can have sex.
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We think of a college educated women and we assume there had to be at least 1 bi-sexual experience. ;)
You bet your bippy!!!! The thing that gets me, though, is that I want my man to be thinking of having sex with ME, not every bimbo who walks by!!!!!! I don't really notice other men (well, in the "he's cute" sense, but not in the "I wonder what he'd be like in bed" sense.) It makes me feel that I am somehow not good enough, when my boy is fantasizing about other women so much that he forgets that he has me to take to bed anytime he wants!!! I always tell him what a handsome, smart man he is, and all I get is "thanks". I can't remember the last time he returned the compliment, but he sure is quick to point out any good looking woman he sees. I will never understand men!!!!!
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"Secret Online Affairs"
by YoursChelbie inhave you ever had a secret online affair?
did it result in the breakup of your previous relationship?
was it worth it?.
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Awwww, ((((DMouse)))), it sounds like you're not much one for hurting people, I hope it all turns out well! Unrequieted love can be the greatest and most painful of feelings, at the same time. I don't know if this is naughty of me to say this or not, but I think that it's ok to have an online relationship, when your partner does not meet your intellectual needs. I can't talk to my partner at all about the JW's, being abused, or any of that, because he just "doesn't want to hear it". I wish I had a secret online affair!!!!!
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Is Sex All Men Think About?
by tyydyy infor instance: .
car - guys look for a car that will attract women.
so they can have sex.
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LOL Tim!!! Is that how it really works? And I thought men liked me for my smarts and sense of humor!!!!
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awwwww!!! ((((((Vivamus))))) I know what you mean!! Remember that song " Well, you can't please everyone, so, ya gotta please yourself". it sucks being monkey in the middle, but I hope your friends will understand that sometimes family comes first, and since we're not dead yet, there are always opportunities to get together in the future!!!
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HURRICANE to hit NOVA SCOTIA today..are you READY?
by Special K ini'm getting hit .. today.. with hurricane juan.. it will strike metro halifax between 6 and 9 pm this evening.
winds 90 to 140 km/hour... up to 80 millimetres of rain.
"this is the worst case scenario for halifax... we are right on the hit list"..says forcasters.
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Take care all, hope you remain safe!!!!! My thoughts are with you!!!
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Do Ex-JW men really understand women?
by Mindchild inhey guys, .
in light of our past shared watchtower delusions, especially relating to understanding women, i thought it would be interesting to see how well everyone scores compared to your real world counterparts in understanding women.. you can take the sexual aptitude test here: http://www.menshealth.com/cda/quizleadin/1,6927,s1-2-0-0-427,00.html.
no cheating now!
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maybesbabies
Don't feel down, JIm_TX!!!! If a woman likes you for who you are, she won't care how many damn roses you do or do not bring!!!! My B/F doesn' t believe in roses, he takes me to beautiful and inspiring places that he knows I'll love, or takes me to a play or movies he knows I've been dying to see, and my favorite saying of his is "theres my roses, baby!!!!"
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What to Believe In Now?
by Frannie Banannie inprior to being borganized, i was captivated by bible scriptures and doctrines....but....after od-ing on scriptural content and doctrines according to the borg for over two decades, i began researching the scriptures to discover too many inconsistencies, even in what was alleged to be god's word.....the writings of earthling men, said to be inspired by god...... during the od-ing, i experienced quite a few personal spiritual incidents or events, which served at the time to confirm to me that the scriptures themselves were valid as to their veracity and content.....but.... after researching and discovering the inconsistencies in them, i've wondered if the spiritual experiences i had were inspired by what i had read and believed in the scriptures, as i had *believed* in those words.....like....hallucinations caused by strong belief or brain-washing....you know my drift, i'm sure.....i do know that some of the spiritual phenomena toward the end of my being borganized was leading me out of the borg...definitely...no questions about that....so....to me....even if there's the possibility that my experiences were caused by being immersed mentally and emotionally in scriptural content, the end result was good...and beneficial to me, since they did free me and open my eyes to the real truth of the matter....... now that i've discovered the inconsistencies in the scriptures and religious doctrines, i have only blind faith in god left to me.....even though i sense that he's here for me and listens and answers when i ask, it's sometimes difficult to deal with....i keep wondering if there isn't something or someone i should be putting my faith in....but the answer always appears to be "no"......i can't find god in a book.....i can't find him in a building or organization.....i don't know what tomorrow....or next week, next month, next year or the next century or millenium will bring to mankind...... could it be that life is once again becoming an adventure for which i do not know what the outcome is?
like it was when i was young?
if it is.....then thank god!....for to always know what and where i was supposed to be and what tomorrow and the future would bring was to live in fear....fear of not living up to my part in someone else's plan.....be it god's or mankind's.....i much prefer to "pioneer" my life....one day at a time....even if i don't know what to expect from it....should i seek enlightenment beyond what has been given to me?.
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Awwwww, thanks Frannie, that means a lot to me!!!!! (((((Frannie)))))
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How do we stop feeling like exjws?
by Brummie ini dont know.
today i had an episode of dissociation, the feeling of being totally disconnected from everything and everyone.
as if all of a sudden i knew no one or wasnt connected to anyone.
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Many think that emotions are different from thoughts as if they were opposites, but the fact is that all thoughts have an emotional component and all emotions are likewise a function of ideas and beliefs
I do not disagree with that, but I think that's off the topic. It's not thoughts that are the issue, but that there are "logical" thoughts and "emotional" thoughts. Many thoughts are tied to emotion, as being DF'd is not thought of on a logical level (oh well, it wasn't for me), but on an emotional level (what did I do so wrong that I'm not worthy of love and forgiveness?).
it is not a seperation between belief and emotion but between irration beliefs which seek to move your body in ways it cannot go, like into the past and the future vs rational beliefs about what can be done right now.
Belief and emotion are often the same thing, we are not "purely" logical creatures. "Irrational" beliefs is a subjective phrase, what is irrational to some is totally rational to another. A statement I have read, "To know better is not sufficient to do better", as we can know something logically, but be unable to apply it emotionally. It is not the difference between "thoughts and emotion", but the difference between logic and emotion.
these emotions have NO hold on your current thinking beyond what your beliefs give them
Ridiculous, these emotions have an absolute hold over your current thinking, because as you said, it is your beliefs that give them power, and unless you change your beliefs, then you are captive to the emotion you have at the time.
it is bad habits of thought, misunderstandings of how thoughts and emotions are tied together, etc. which cause these bad feelings.
B.S. "Bad Habits" vary from person to person, so what works for you may not work for another. As far as "misunderstandings of how thoughts and emotions are tied together" Thoughts and emotions go hand in hand, we are not purely logical creatures!!!!!! Your thoughts can be led by emotions the same as your thoughts can be led by logic, it has nothing to do with that.
Everything you do in one way or another tries to bring your back to a state of contentment.... but when the dis-ease is mentally based, there can be no other cure than changes of thought pattern.
This is NOT true, it has been proven that if you have been abused, your thoughts generally lead you back to that moment, not to contentment. I agree that there can be no cure other than changes of thought pattern, but it is not as simple as you make it seem. It takes a lot to overcome the damages that have been done!!! There is a huge difference between emotion and logic!!!!! MOST of us know what would be LOGICALLY best for us, but overcoming emotional patterns that are ingrained are not so easily overcome!!! I'm glad that you've reached a state of "ZEN", but just because you have does not mean that it's not a grueling process for the rest of us, as our emotions have a great deal to do with our progress.