I don't think I could have ever said it so succinctly, well done. I'm with ya - I always questioned the wisdom of everyone "building and having occupancy... Planting and eating the fruitage.". An economy in which everyone is entirely self sufficient would be wildly inefficient without the economies of scale or specialization. Not to mention - as you pointed out - it wouldn't be much of a paradise if everyone had to do factory work periodically - but in comparison with our current standard of living, it wouldn't be much of a paradise with no factory-made goods either.
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Q-tips and Coffee Filters helped me learn TTATT
by RedPillPopper inwell they didn't fully teach me ttatt but helped me on the way.............. first thing i do in the morning after waking up is grinding some nice coffee beans and getting the brew started while i take a hot shower.
after the shower i like to clean out all the nasty wax out of my ears with a q-tip (or cotton swab for those not familiar with that term).. while cleaning out my ears i would think about how nice it is we have things like q-tips and coffee filters that make life more enjoyable but at the same time realize that somebody somewhere is in a factory making these.. i can't imagine a child saying "when i grow up i want to work in a factory making coffee filters".
the people who end up really doing that as adults did not set that to be a life goal.
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Did you AWAKEN from the JWs by yourself?
by cultBgone ini was thinking about how so many posters here on jwn are frustrated and frantic to help their loved ones get away from the brainwashing of jws, and how much advice is given about how to help family members and loved ones.
i considered my own leaving and that it was internal turmoil based on the teachings getting weirder and child abuse issues, to name just a few, and it made me wonder:.
did you self-awaken or were you assisted by the gentle proddings of a friend or family member?
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OneEyedJoe
My awakening was almost completely due to my love of learning, particularly in the subjects of astrophysics, cosmology, biology, psychology and logic. Once I was primed with sufficient knowledge to understand that it was possible the world could be explained without the WTS's theology and recognized the many logical fallacies and miss-characterizations all it took was a good kick in the pants from jwfacts for me to see the cult for what it was.
I was never fortunate enough to have someone try to help me awaken. I'd guess that I was prime for awakening for probably 10 years before it actually happened. Just sorta floated along with many doubts all those years.
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Illegal immigrants in the organization?
by silent ini had a thought today that might prove interesting.
i'm wondering if there are any illegal immigrants who are witnesses?
surely it would be a great position to be in as an illegal immigrant because you could play up your plight and prey on the sympathies of others within the congregation.
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OneEyedJoe
ive heard that down in Texas if you're a brother that wants to be an elder all you have to do is learn Spanish and join one of the Spanish congregations. Apparently most of them are illegal so they end up d with congregations of 100+ with only a couple elders, so if you're at all eligible you're made an elder straight away.
The cult is hurting for brothers who are reaching out so bad that it's only a matter of time before they let illegals become appointed, if they haven't changed the rules already. Especially considering that most new recruits come from immigrants these days.
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Why do cults love Tunnels?
by runForever inhehehe, brooklyn bethel had tunnels that went under the street to other buildings and now this warwick will have tunnels.. maybe it's because:" everyone who does evil hates the light, and does not come to the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed.
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maybe they will be in their tunnels when they are saying : "say to the mountains, 'fall on us,' and to the hills, 'cover us.
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OneEyedJoe
Australia bethel has underground tunnels also!
It is where all the home brew kits are secretly kept! (I'm not joking either)
Slightly off topic - but I've been told by a couple bethelites that there are a lot of guys in NY bethel that put false-backs into their closets. Not just for home-brew, but also to hide their still for making brandy from rotten fruit from the farm.
I wouldnt' read too much into the tunnels...but their withdrawl from the urban areas is the first sign of a group that's about to become radicalized.
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New light scripture??
by Daisychaindream ini've seen it mentioned in a few posts and i didn't want to high jack!
can anyone explain what this is about?.
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OneEyedJoe
Off the top of my head I believe it's proverbs 4:18. There's no such thing as "new light" or "old light" in the bible - the only scripture they use to justify it is one that says the path of a righteous man (as contrasted with the path of a wicked man) is like a light that gets brighter as the day draws near.
Of course, any time there's a reference to a day drawing near, the JW's mind will immediately relate that to armageddon. In this context, however, it's clearly just talking about the increasing light from the sun as dawn approaches, nothing about armageddon is implied in any way.
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Stop BREATHING you SINNER!
by stuckinarut2 in(this may offend some sincere 'christians'.
can you, as a human, stop yourself from breathing?.
i have always thought that one of the basic teachings of 'christianity' is the concept that we are "mere sinners"...riddled with guilt and not worthy of god or life...undeserved kindness has been shown to us etc.... but, we have no control over that, just as we have no control over breathing air!.
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I guess if you're aim is to control people through guilt, you'd better find a way that everyone is always guilty.
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Glaring discrepency in Blood Doctrine
by kjg132 ini found an article on the dr. sears website about the benefits of breasfeeding.
according to the article it says: "a drop of breastmilk contains about one million white blood cells.
" it also says "colostrum also contains higher amounts of white blood cells..........than mature milk.
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OneEyedJoe
Even as a teenager back in the '70s when the policy was uber strict (aka no blood at all), I could not reconcile with myself that a symbol of life was more important than life itself.
One should do everything possible within their power to save a life, including the provision of blood.
I liked the way Ray Franz put it in an interview that Terry recently posted. Dying for want of a blood transfusion is the same as being willing to divorce your wife in order to prevent the loss of your wedding ring.
Their policy was also in contradiction to the belief held that if given the chance, anyone could be a Jehovah's Witness. Not true for hemophiliacs and others requiring whole blood products to survive.
Hemophiliacs could've been JWs, they'd just die the first time they got a paper cut. But they'd surely go straight to paradise!
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The Happiest I Have Ever Been
by nolongerconfused inhello dear friends,.
it has been a while since i've posted here.
much has happened since i left the cult.
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OneEyedJoe
Congrats! Living well is the best revenge against the murderous cult. Glad to hear you're getting your revenge in full.
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Glaring discrepency in Blood Doctrine
by kjg132 ini found an article on the dr. sears website about the benefits of breasfeeding.
according to the article it says: "a drop of breastmilk contains about one million white blood cells.
" it also says "colostrum also contains higher amounts of white blood cells..........than mature milk.
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OneEyedJoe
The discrepancy is even more blatant when you read the WTS's justification for allowing certain fractions. Part of why some fractions are allowed is because they're transferred from mother to child during breastfeeding.
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"The Friends"
by FeelingFree ini have only come across this term very recently on jwn and in an "apostate" video i watched yesterday.
never have i heard anyone refer to jw's as "the friends" here in the uk.
is it just used in america?.
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Used all the time here, and it's very irritating because 99.9% of the ones that I'm aquainted with are nothing resembling friends.