i managed to find a copy of "going clear" on the internet.
i won't post a link because most are loaded with pop-ups and you have to be careful about accidental downloads.
mine was no exception, but i managed to keep the computer clean.
I watched it the other day. My wife had actually already watched it and when I talked to her about it she seemed to have made zero connection to her chosen cult. I think she's a lost cause.
The part that hit me the hardest was watching the 4 women going on TV badmouthing their exhusbands. That may well be my future (minus the tv part)
i was wondering ... what are all of the "official" reasons provided by elders for disfellowshipping someone?
i know the most common reasons are adultery and fornication, but what about the others?
a couple of years ago i traveled back to my hometown` and one of my old jw acquaintances told me that her grown son had been disfellowshipped for refusing to stop associating with another disfellowshipped person.
Well as is often said here - anything 3 elders agree on.
Some specifics - sex, alcoholism/drugs, badmouthing the cult or doctrine, being tangentially involved in fraud (happened to a personal friend of mine - he was innocent), porn, blood transfusion, misc bloodguilt, misc crimes (theft assault, etc), joining another church, joining any political group, smoking, voting, any form of military service... I'm sure there's lots more but I'm drawing a blank now.
i honestly have never heard such claptrap being delivered in a memorial talk.. the speaker repeatedly put down the way other religions administered the bread & wine, and claimed that witnesses do it exactly as the bible describes.
oh yeah????.
he forgot to mention - when reading aloud 1 corinthians 11:25 - that after passing the bread, a full meal was to be shared, before the wine was passed around!
i walked by the local double hall this afternoon on my way home from work at about 4:30 pm.
you would never know it's a special night.
no cars in the lot, nothing swept, no flowers or decorations...totally dead.
has anyone else seen the hbo scientology documentary 'going clear' - wow...cults are just mind-blowing you wonder how people can fall for that garbage, then you (those of us former/fading jws) look in the mirror.. i would love for someone to make a major jw documentary like this.
'going clear' is getting a lot of press.
poor tom cruise...he looks like quite the whack job in it too.
Watched going clear this morning. I lost it when they showed the interviewees' exwives badmouthing them on TV.
My wife actually had already watched it - I don't understand how an active jw could be so unaffected by it as she was. When I talked to her about it she talked about how crazy it all was without a hint of irony. Actually her tone was more of relief that she didn't have to deal with the difficulties of living in a cult. I think she's a lost cause.
http://www.cracked.com/blog/4-religions-youve-got-all-wrong-because-hollywood/.
the article describes four different religions (rastafari, jws, amish, and scientology); jws are #3.. the jw entry is pretty accurate (and as usual, funny), but surprisingly doesn't mention the two-witness-rule-related legal troubles the wt has been having lately.
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okay so the number is literal but them coming out of israel is not?
huh?
what am i missing?
so a friend from work had a get togather to watch ncaa basketball this pass weekend and i went on saturday morning as we wer watching the game some one rings the doorbell and my friend gos to the door he is there maybe a minute or so, he walks back into the room and screams outloud !!!
"yes i got invited" and starts laughing as other see what he was talking about .
someone sais " i hate those door knockers".
There's a place to mark "tracts" on the time slip? Show's how long it's been since I turned in an actual slip instead of texting some BS hours.
I think so (I haven't filled out a timeslip in ages either) but I remember around last memorial season they read a letter telling us to report tracts as brochures until they could get a new time slip form created. I'm sure they've got the new ones out by now.
They probably realized if they're going to spend 3-4 months a year on "special campaigns" like this crap, they need to make the stat-oriented JWs feel like they're accomplishing something.
so a friend from work had a get togather to watch ncaa basketball this pass weekend and i went on saturday morning as we wer watching the game some one rings the doorbell and my friend gos to the door he is there maybe a minute or so, he walks back into the room and screams outloud !!!
"yes i got invited" and starts laughing as other see what he was talking about .
someone sais " i hate those door knockers".
Memorial invitations aren't marked as placements, but I get what you're saying.
They're now counting them as "tracts" placed, so people can feel like they're accomplishing something.
So what you're saying is, the leaflet didn't go to a prominent place on the dining room table for all in the family to look over and consider? I'm shocked! Shocked I tell you!
dubs are working the housing estate where i live.
i was outside my house, applying some tlc to my old jag (worshiping worldly things?)..
one old guy, half a dozen middle-aged and upwards ladies.
Has anyone reviewed the data to see whether there has been any sort of measurable % increase in Memorial attendance since this concerted invitation business (including "pioneer-lite") started several years back?
Memorial attendance only just surpassed the previous peak in 2011 last year, so if it's doing anything it's only disguising the decline.
