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  The Fear mongering of this weeks WT study!

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  have you all read this weeks study article?.

  oh my word it is full of fear inducing tactics....doom and gloom outlooks.... anxiety inducing methods to develop absolute control over witnesses and cripple them in any attempt to think for themselves!.

  (notice i am saying "themselves" rather than "ourselves"?!

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  OneEyedJoe

  Good to know that even hunkered down in a basement the white men will still find time, razors and shaving cream to stay clean shaven.  Also, it appears that the soul-patch exemption is still in place for black men.
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  Biology professor speaks out about Watchtower misquoting him

  by EndofMysteries in

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  http://www.inquisitr.com/1766536/biology-professor-creationist-magazine/.

  a biology professor is speaking out, demanding an apology and calling for an end to attempts to perpetuate lies against evolution after a statement from him was taken out of context in a creationist article in awake!, a jehovahs witness publication.

  he says that a portion of his statement was picked from the whole, leaving a completely different impression from his actual statement.. .

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  I really wish that the article (and Singh himself) hadn't mentioned exjws.  That makes all this pretty much worthless to people like me trying to use the misquotes to wake someone up.

  That said, it's great that this cult it getting even a fraction of the negative press that it deserves.
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  I just went to a "wordly" funeral/memorial service.

  by William Penwell in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as my topic stated, i just came back from a co-worker memorial service that was not a witness.

  the minister did get into the religious stuff a bit but that was expected.

  i just respectfully listened.

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  OneEyedJoe

   "god had called this person to heaven" and "that he only takes the best"

  So where are all the immortal assholes? 
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  Need help compiling a list of the latest changes in doctrine and practices

  by jwfacts in

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  2. beliefs

  i have former jws looking at jwfacts.com in order to update themselves with what is happening with the religion, so that they can better understand their jw family.

  it thought it would help if there was a page devoted to what has changed since 2000. .

  2012 oct release of jw.org - jws encouraged to download their own publications and use ipads at meetings and field service.

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  According to the Nov 14 WT we cab drink before meetings.  This is a reversal from an article from about a decade prior.

  Supposedly no more types/antitypes, but they're making an exception for the 1914 doctrine. (March QFR)

  Bible reading reduced to 3 minutes during the midweek meetings.  Bible highlights now only allows the brother giving the talk to make one point in 2 minutes.  Demonstrations for brother on the TMS. (As of 2015)

  All assemblies are 1 day (but mysteriously cost the same).  No book study during the CO visit. (As of September '14)

  Resurected ones are allowed to get married in the new system (apparently Jesus was talking about the anointed when he said they would be like angels . I think this was in a QFR from summer 2014.

  New KHs to have a more commercial storefront like appearance (presumably for better resale) 

  Jw.org signs on KHs (a reversal on the previous insistence that they not use the WT logos on KHs)
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  Hello

  by Garrett in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello forum,.

  i'm new here and not sure where to post.

  so, i'm 21 years old and currently a baptized witness, however, i'm slowly making my mind up to leave and here's why.. first, there are certain things that make no sense to me in the organization.

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  OneEyedJoe

  It sounds like you're already well on your way to an effective fade.  you've made your depression known so you have an "excuse" (in your case it's actually a valid reason, most of us have to have to settle for an excuse to miss meetings) not to be at the meetings.  If the elders start to bug you too much, you can always go back a little more for a while, then say you're moving.  Go to another congregation just long enough to get your publisher card moved (sunday's only so they don't get too used to seeing you there) and if you talk to anyone mention in passing that you might have to move again soon.  Once the publisher card is moved, never go back.

  I haven't done it myself (yet) but this is roughly the procedure I've seen laid out a number of times.  It leaves you as just a footnote in a congregation where they have no personal interest in you.  

  You're lucky to be waking up to the realities of life as a JW as early as you are.  I wish I'd realized something was wrong before I was married and stuck in for the sake of my wife.  

  In the meantime, if you ever need to talk feel free to PM me.  I'm no psychologist, but I know for me sometimes just writing things out with the knowledge someone else will read it is helpful.  

  
  

  Edit: Also, I'll just say - you're not alone in this by any means.  There's nothing wrong with you that you don't fit in there.  The things you've observed are universal throughout all JWs, and definitely represents a systemic problem.  The organization is at fault, not your average JW who's usually genuinely trying their best to do what they think (or, more accurately what they've been told) is right.
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  GB says, "Our way of worship will soon be altered."

  by Separation of Powers in

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  my mom called me yesterday to ask how i was doing.

  i hadn't seen her in a while, so it was nice to hear her voice.

  we went through the motions of jw small talk and then she started telling me about her co visit from last week.

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  The GB will release 'new light'.  "Recently new light has revealed that the governing body alone are the faithful slave, and were we not appreciate for the governing body having shared this new light? The trumpets of truth have shone more new light! Evidently, since the faithful slave is entrusted with all his master belongings, the faithful slave is actually the representation of the master, and as such, the faithful slave is to be worshiped as the master would be, because in worshiping the faithful slave, one is in actuality worshiping the master. From here on, all talks will be televised from the GB directly worldwide.  All chairs will be removed from the kingdomhalls and replaced with prayer rugs. Everyone will bow low in worship as they take in the divine teachings from the master himself through the faithful slave, the governing body.
  

  I think it's more likely to go something like this: Since the master will appoint the FDS as the master of all his belongings, how much more so should you do the same?  The GB is proud to announce that they are willing to help you oversee all your worldly possessions.  They'll provide legal services for you to sign over any property to them, as well as have your paychecks be auto-deposited in their accounts.  They will provide you with an allowance that will cover your living expenses.  

  What a loving provision it is that they are willing to take responsibility for these unrighteous riches and material possessions to allow us to better focus on spiritual things and store up treasures in heaven.
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  Last nights meeting...

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
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  i know dubs are delusional.

  i know dubs don't reason well.

  i know dubs are a bit off, like many groups.

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  Its been interesting reading everyones ideas of how old the the kid in the video is. I think it was planned that way. For people who WILL go very young with baptism - here is their role model.

  For people who caution it shouldnt be a "child" well.......hes really "12-13 dontcha know" wink wink

  I am basing my idea on the fact that we know they have always elaborately staged their illustrated work in publications and then encouraged people to derive meaning and comment on them at meetings.

  They are finding that things they have put in to words have come back to bite them.  Its very hard to be held accountable for things you put in to a picture.

  Yep, the kid is sorta an ink-blot test.  No matter what an individual JW thinks is the perfect age for baptism, they'll think the kid is that age.  

  The "what can we glean from the picture on page 12" questions at the meetings are always so irritating to me.  From people's comments it's like they think because someone can stage a scene or, better yet, draw a picture that's proof that it's an accurate portrayal of reality.  It's almost like the joke I've seen on TV shows a couple times - where the stupid character says something that rhymes as if the very fact that it rhymes makes it a true statement.

  In any event, the kid is young but certainly not 6-7 years old and I've seen kids that young getting dunked.  Even being older than that, what does every kid want? to be older.  If they see a cartoon of an older kid getting dunked, they'll want to do it as a sign of their maturity.  If they see a younger kid getting dunked, they'll feel guilty or inadequate.  It's win/win for them.
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  How did you get through mind numbing meetings?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  as an elder, i used to find a legitimate reason to wander.

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  I like to browse this forum and screw around online to pass the time.  Sometimes I'll read ahead in whatever they're "studying" and see if I can find some comment to give that might help someone in the audience to think about things a little more.
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  Last nights meeting...

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know dubs are delusional.

  i know dubs don't reason well.

  i know dubs are a bit off, like many groups.

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  OneEyedJoe

  Adults giggling to the predictable sound effect laden idiocy of a cartoon and comparing it to some kind of miraculous provision was just too much. I truly felt alone as I sat there, listening to the drones giggle and fawn over a cartoon.
  

  I don't know if I'd rush to judgement based on that.  After all, I'd certainly rather watch a cartoon than sit through a typical meeting part.  Their system was so prepared for the usual dull doom and gloom, do more or you'll die at armageddon BS that they always hear, so a lighthearted cartoon is such a shock to their system - of course they're going to giggle.

  Once you're mentally out, the absurdity of it all is really shocking though.  I'm pretty sure I'll be able to miss tonight so I'm glad I won't be sitting though this crap.
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  Mormon 'support' for gays, pressure on the WTS?

  by Simon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the mormon / lds church has noticably changed it's stance toward homosexuality and instead of condemning it seems to be supporting protection for people's rights (of course they want to throw some protection for themselves in there as well).. how will this affect the wts?

  the lds is the more-successful counterpart to the wts, similar age and history and same non-mainstream appeal.. i have no doubt that the lds church is only changing because they know which way the wind is blowing and society has completely changes it's attitudes towards gay people.

  maybe they just want to stay ahead pf the curve before federal legislation enforces people's rights.. now, can we see the wts changing their views" will they be one of the last holdouts?

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  OneEyedJoe

  Sir82 - you make a good point.  The recent concessions that the mormons are making are probably directly related to Mitt Romney's presidential run.  I bet they desperately want to get a mormon into the whitehouse (or at least more positions of power) to legitimize their cult.