"God never imprisoned wild beasts in zoos , but mercifully protected them through the Flood... "
NO Animals died?... exactly what side of the equation were they looking at?
nov 15,1949 watchtower page 349. proper relationship between men and beast.
men have wrongfully gone into the wilds and trapped the wild beasts and removed them from their natural homes, and placed them in prisons, such aszoos, and thus inflicted upon them cruel punishment.
the excuse of men for doing this is that it satisfies the curiosity and fancy of men.
"God never imprisoned wild beasts in zoos , but mercifully protected them through the Flood... "
NO Animals died?... exactly what side of the equation were they looking at?
in reading terrys latest post, if made me think of something that exists and many of us have experienced but i have not really put into a logical thoughts process before.
in terrys 4 facts everyone should know about jw's, the second one referrs to the walsh trial where unity is said to be more important than truth, in no uncertain terms.. this made me think about how one would bring up this fact.
my mind wandered to the beginning of my fade, when inevitably, many of us open up our mouths and say too much.
I showed the Atlanta International Convention promo video to a bro I work with. He is convinced it was "hacked by apostates". The middle is good but the apostates added to the front and the end. There is no reasoning with these people. He would only beleive it if the jw.org moniker is on the beginning and end. That is another "mental branding" trend I see. Will be more powerful than the tower logo in the near future.
before i dive into the actual write-up of this experience, let me put some things straight.. i have thought long and hard if i should write more about my experiences during the 10+ years at different branches.
during these years i worked from financial department, service department, home office and different it assignments.
as you can imagine one sees and hears and reads a lot of stuff going through different stations in different countries.
bookmarked... thanks bluepill2
so i have been told that all kingdom halls are to have a large jw.org sign placed prominently out the front..... can anyone confirm this?.
marked (without a talk! lol)
we had a co looking for a certain experience for an assembly part coming up and the elders in my hall at the time sent him to see me, since i usually had good experiences out in field service.. anyway, after speaking with the co, i was sorry to inform him that i did not have an experience that suited the type he needed.
he told me that was o.k.
because he could use me anyway for another part.
I was given a CA part once which required an experience of someone who started a bible study on the very first visit using a specific tract. The tract had just been released the month before so I knew this was going to be tough. I had been through one CO visit with the CO that had given me the assignment and already didn't trust him for other reasons so I made sure to keep detailed notes of every one I called in the circuit just in case. I am glad I did. At the dress rehearsal in front of a large group of JWs who had parts for both the A and B circuits the CO turned to me and said are you ready to give your part now? I said no because I was unable to find an experience to fit the requirements stated. To cut him off at the pass I handed him my clipboard with 3 pages of notes to prove all the calls I made etc. He looked at it for a couple of minutes flipping through the pages while there was dead silence in the hall. I felt all eyes were on me. He then asked "what about sister so-in-so I had call you with her experience? I said the study was not started on the initial call with the tract as required by your instructions. He said that can be adjusted. I said I will have no part in that because it wouldn't be truthful. You could hear a pin drop. After a few seconds he asked the other brother who had my exact part in the other circuit if those sisters would be willing to give their experience in both circuits and they agreed. So that was how it was worked out. I gave my CA part (my last) with an experience that fit the criteria with by sisters from a different circuit.
dear friends.
i never was a dub.
i am not a qualified lawyer or accountant.
As far as I know the KH is still owned by the local non profit org here in CA USA. There is a clause in the local non profit papers concerning what happens to KH assets if the cong is disolved. After liabilities are taken care of any remaining assets are to be sold and forwarded to the WTS. Last time I looked at the local paperwork was in 2008. No longer an E so things may have changed since.
i would appreciate your thoughts on this question : why would the almighty god sacrifice one of his creations in blood letting to appease him ?.
does this make any sence at all ?
god is supposed to have created everything living , human and animals , and then he wants / expects a human to execute one of his creations as a sacrifice to him ?.
@smiddy
I have wondered this very thing myself... slaughter of the innocents, even if they are animals. I personally find the whole sacrifice of animals concept repulsive and confusing. Of course this can lead to questioning the validy of larger issues...
according to bloomberg news:.
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-04-07/wedding-photographer-rebuffed-by-top-court-on-same-sex-ceremony.
"the u.s. supreme court turned away an appeal from a new mexico wedding photographer found to have violated a state anti-discrimination law when she refused to take pictures of a commitment ceremony for a same-sex couple.. the photographer, elaine huguenin, argued unsuccessfully that she was being unconstitutionally forced to convey a message conflicting with her religious beliefs.
I can't believe I read this whole thread... that's what happens when you can't sleep!
The choice/born that way discussion has always fascinated me. Some things you can't change (born that way) obviously but I think that sometimes the "born that way" argument is used as an excuse for not wanting to make necessary changes in ones thinking or attitude.
I had a business for a little over 20 years and can honestly say that a clients sexual preference didn't concern me, I was more worried about if their check was going to bounce.
i have a genuine question for the jw apologist.
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what is your scriptural justification for your unquestioning obedience to the governing body and your unwillingness to question their intepretation of scripture?.
@SAHS great post!
please don't attack me if this is the wrong place!
i know that i definitely shouldn't be on this website, but i am to embarassed to ask anyone at my hall!
everyone would be so nice, but i just feel like i should know the answers already.
That 2nd CO meeting during their visit is being done away with after the 1st of next year anyway, so you will have no need to prepare for another!