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  Field Service Spies

  by cameo-d in

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  2. beliefs

  please excuse my ignorance.

  enquiring minds just want to know.. when you visit someone in field service do you give a report with information about that person or household?.

  is there a pattern of requirements that you must fill out, like number in household, spoke to male or female, something about their attitude?.

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  aniron

  However, these forms were abandoned, in the UK at least, due to the Data Protection act. 'Publishers' still keep track of such info, but no longer on any official Society paperwork.

  As "passwordprotected" said here in UK we used to use the S8 "House to House Record" slip. We would write down "not-at-homes" on it.

  Also details of anyone who actually bothered to talk to us. Usually gender, subject talked about, any publications placed etc. Any other info that may prove useful when making a "return visit".

  Then as said the "Data Protection Act" came into force and the WT scrapped the S8 form. We were told we had touse our own notebooks to keep records of calls etc.

  But if you had a list of "not at homes" you couldn't give another JW the page they were written on from your notebook. You had to verbally tell them and they would write them down in their notebook. As giving them the page from your notebook was deemed to be breaking the "Data Protection Act."
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  How many JW's quietly know it is all bull....or...

  by oompa in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  at least have major doubts and flat out do not agree on some fds teaching.

  lately i have been very engaging with jw family and friends and every single one had at least one total disagreement with the fds (i told them i would not shun them for this apostacy, and to be careful who they express it to...lol).

  common non-beliefs with fds....were:.

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  aniron

  RE:Vasectomy.

  I had one in 1989 while I was a Min Servant ...... on the advice of an Elder.

  My wife and I had checked up Watchtower information on it, if I recall right we found it in a WT saying it was ok, and spoke to this Elder, he said that there was no objection to a JW having a vasectomy.

  Just before I went for my op, another Elder told us he was going for it the week before mine. I know of at least another JW brothers who had it done.

  Then some time after I had left, they changed the teaching basing it on some OT scritptures about how eunuchs cannot hold positions in the priesthood. So any brother who had had a vasectomy could not become a Min.Servant or Elder. but as far as I know Elders who had already had it done could stay as Elders.
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  Brothers who were Gay but couldn't admit/accept it! Did you have some?

  by Witness 007 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have come to realize that being gay is something you are just born with....so why judge them if it's like being born a certain race.. a brother g_____ i knew was a zealous pioneer pushing 43 years old.

  he never married though the sisters thought he was dreamy and he had plenty of offers....."she's not for me" he would always, many times tell me some excuse.

  he loved to give only brothers a big hug...say if you gave a public talk or something.

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  aniron

  In my congregation we had a brother married a few years then came out as gay, was DF'd, then divorced by wife.

  Another brother who as a child I remember as a chubby little kid. Years later met at a funeral at KH, didn't recognise him, grown into a really good looking guy. Then a while later was told he had come out as gay, and now lives with another former JW guy.

  Two JW brothers, in their mid 20's, were caught on afternoon in bed together. By one their mothers, who thought they were on field service. Turned out these two had been doing it since they were about 17/18. They had been using going on field service as a cover to meet up.

  I can only recall two sisters who were lesbian. They were pioneers. They "teamed up" and got their own place, It never crossed anyones mind that there might have been another reason why they lived together. It was a few years before they decided they had enough of living a double life and came out.

  There are probably about 3-4 other brothers that I know who are gay.

  There is one Elder who for years I have had a suspicion about, he has been married a few years now. But when he was single and inhis late 20's there was just something about him. He was always trying toget my teenage son to come round to his house, or go out for the day with him.
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  Bethel Australia 2 couples go on holidays and swaped partners - True!!?

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  a sister confronted a bethel elder about this in my presence and he confirmed it ....wow!

  i thought it was a bull crap rumor...and he said they had been disfellowshiped....any aussies hear of or no more about this?

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  aniron

  I recall that a few years ago that it was discovered that "wife-swapping" was going on between two congregations.

  I only found out when I noticed that two couples were no longer attending meetings.

  I mentioned it to an Elder friend, he took me aside and told me, as he thought it would all come out anyway.

  It seems that at least six couples were involved , though they think there could have been more.

  Couple of Elders were involved in it.

  Yet I cannot recall any announcement of anyone being Disfellowshipped.
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  has anyone seen the movie............

  by bigdreaux in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the god who wasn't there.

  www.thegodmovie.com.

  i was just wondering if it was worth checking out.

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  It says its "astounding audiences" round the world. Well this is the first I've heard of it not exactly showing at mt local Warner Cinema.

  Like many films like this outside the USA they are hardly ever heard of.
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  Any "Born Again" Christians here?

  by sacolton in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  would like to see how many have accepted jesus christ as the only way, truth and life..

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  aniron

  YES!
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  Conversations with a True Believer

  by Farkel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  nothing makes one happier to be out of religious crap that a conversation with a true believer.. it all started innocently enough.

  we talked about music.

  he said i probably knew nothing about music and that he was a former disk jockey.

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  aniron

  Thats the kind of Christian that gets real Christians a bad name. They are Taliban Christians.
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  Do JW's watch movies in their homes which they would not watch in theatres?

  by gaiagirl in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  jw's sometimes speak about how they don't wish to "stumble" non-jw's or cast a bad light upon the organization.

  do jw's watch movies at home which they would not want non-jw's to observe them watching in a theatre?.

  if they do, do you feel that they are really concerned about what the non-jw's think, or are they more concerned with being observed by other jw's?

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  aniron

  I always recall being in an Elders house waiting to go on "service" with him. Next to me on a bookcase were quite a few videos, mainly family ones , the usual Disney stuff etc, and few 15 rated ones.

  One of his children came in to get some from off the bookcase, as he did so he knocked against a cupboard door at the bottm, which caused it to swing open a few inches. The child left and I saw from were I sat in the cupboard stacks of 18 rated films. I quietly closed the cupboard door and smiled to myself and stored this away in my mind for future use.

  Also I recall a Min. Servant giving a talk in which he went on about the kind of TV programs and films a JW should not watch. The following week atthe KH he was going to me about a certain film and how good it was. It wasn't until he went that I remembered that film was an 18 rated film, one of the type he was going on about the week before.
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  SNEAK PEAK! watchtowercomments.com

  by V in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this will be a flashy website!.

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=es1kh-bkmwc.

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  aniron

  Looking forward to the website.

  Have used "WTcomments" videos and the comments contain in them often. They are straight to the point and clear. Just enough in each video to use on a JW.

  I'm sure "V" has taken all precautions about the site to prevent any come back from the Watchtower.

  Even so when the WT has tried anything in the past it usually backfires on them. The resulting publicity does them more harm than good.

  The "WT Quotes" site being a good example.

  Looking forward to this WTcomments site
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  Why Grandma wouldn't talk to her grandson.

  by compound complex in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  that's just it, dear coco... fear.

  the religion is not based on love, it is based on fear.

  i personally have worked for years to purge myself of the fears within me, and it is not easy by any stretch of the imagination.

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  aniron

  I know of a lady who was disfellowshipped when younger. Her younger brothers used to run screaming from her if they saw her.

  She later learnt this was because their mother had told them that is they spoke to her Jehovah would strike them down.

  One brother is now a stuck up his own backside Elder, and the other is having mental problems.