Early christians refused to worship the Emperor as a god. I admire them for that. However, some centuries later, when a group of christians took the lead by converted Emperors, this created the Roman Catholic Church, that burned and killed those who refused to obey it. In the XX century, some Jehovah's Witnesses were tortured and even killed by Hitler, and other dictators like those in Argentina at the end of the 70s. However, although Jehovah's Witnesses have no political power and weapons, they torture and destroy psychologically some of the lives of those who are under their religious power. I do not doubt that if the governing body had political and military power as they expect during the reign of 1000 years, would condemn and kill many of us for not kissing their ass.
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Lillian Gobitas Klose, the Jehovahs Witness who refused in 1935 to salute the American flag in Minersville, Pa. started a trail that ultimately changed American legal history died Aug. 22 at age 90
by Sol Reform inlillian gobitas klose, the jehovahs witness who refused in 1935 to salute the american flag in minersville, pa. started a trail that ultimately changed american legal history died aug. 22 at age 90. only three years after it had ruled against the gobitas family, the supreme court voted 6-3 to overturn that decision in a case involving a family of jehovahs witnesses from west virginia.. regardless of what one might think of jehovahs witnesses, lillian gobitas is an example of a person whose willingness to fight for her beliefs has expanded everyones personal freedoms.. http://republicanherald.com/news/minersville-girl-made-legal-history-1.1744279.
lillian gobitas klose, 90; test of faith went to u.s. supreme courtlillian gobitas klose sign the guest book.
atlanta news obituarieslillian gobitas klose, 90; test of faith went to u.s. supreme courtby elizabeth montgomery the atlanta journal-constitution.
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the writer of AnointedJW : another master of pomposity?
by opusdei1972 inas i have read before, one of the members of this forum noted that the writer of the website anointedjw is a master of pomposity.
i am not against them, as i am with jw.org (the watchtower society), but i see that they are trying to imitate the language of the old testament prophets.
for instance, this is what they have recently written:.
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As I have read before, one of the members of this forum noted that the writer of the website AnointedJW is a master of pomposity. I am not against them, as I am with JW.ORG (The Watchtower Society), but I see that they are trying to imitate the language of the Old Testament Prophets. For instance, this is what they have recently written:
We, at AnointedJW, began this year with a proclamation that this is the Father’s Acceptable Year and the Watchtower Society’s Time of Inspection. The Governing Body began this year with their celebration of 100 years of stalled prophecy. Thus, this year can culminate as the Governing Body’s glorious or inglorious hour. Their shining victory or their darkest defeat!
https://www.anointedjw.org/Countdown_to_AGM.html
If there is a God, he is not concerned about any religious group. These guys of the AnointedJW website are regarding the Organization as the ancient Israel, and they think they are being led by a divine force who is doing an "Inspection" through a "prophet" for this work. This is a similar dangerous claim done by Russell against Christendom, then this produced another enslaving religion with Rutherford and his friends as their leaders. The fact is that christianity began with a man who spoke interesting words, but misled many people by propagating a false prophecy: "This generation will not pass". That generation passed and saw no end of the world. So, christianity born with a false prophecy and this is why it causes confusion.
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We worship Satan... lol
by suavojr inat first i laughed when i saw this video but then i got sad why?
because that could've been me 2 years ago.
a horrified face about a man-made bogeyman.
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Jehovah, as shown by the Organization and the Old Testament, is more evil than Satan.
Jehovah sends the witnesses to preach false prophecies as a test of loyalty.
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There is no YahWeh (Jehova(h))!
by DeWandelaar inaccording to scripture god would not let his name be used without a form of respect.
disrespecting it would result in death itself!
some days ago i thought: you know what?
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Marcion was a christian who noticed the difference between the God, as told by Jesus, and the God of the Old Testament. Marcion noted that Yahweh was an evil God who created the fleshy status. One of the verses used by Marcion to prove his theology was the following:
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil (Isaiah 45:7)
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Jesus was a false prophet?
by opusdei1972 inand he said to them, "i tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the kingdom of god come with power.
(mark 9:1).
when you are persecuted in one place, flee to another.
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As I see, in Mark, Matthew and Luke, the great tribulation is related to the destruction of Jerusalem, and Matthew says that " immediately after the tribulation of those days...... shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory........... Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all these things be accomplished. "
So, if Jesus said what Matthew wrote, the prophecy of Jesus failed, because during that generation, the tribes of the earth did not see Jesus coming on the clouds as a consequence of the destruction of Jerusalem. That generation passed without seeing Christ for the second time.
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Introductions
by Onager ini've made a few posts here already so i thought i'd introduce myself.
i'm an ex-jw from cheltenham pittville (uk) congregation.
i've been free and clear for a few years now so i'm through the anger phase and in the happily getting on with my life phase.
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Onager - The Bible contains lies and contradictions. If there is a God who created us, He is not the God of the Bible. This is why I am currently a skeptic.
Welcome and best wishes.
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Members of the writing department has resigned
by hardtobeme inthis is what i found at anointedjw.org.
i don't know if it's true.
on august 25, 2014, we received the following comment and inquiry: .
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AnointedWitnesses- "Their hurt and anger blinds them to the fact that the Father and Christ Jesus had nothing to do with those machinations".
The question is this: who is the Father ?. If the "Father" is the God of the Old Testament we can't reconcile to Him, because he is vengeful, genocide, child murderer, and inspired false prophecies.
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All the craziness of the blood doctrine.
by Crazyguy inwell it looks like the wt was slowly moving away from the blood ban going back to the 1990's but not sure of some things i have read concerning thier comments about blood moving through the placenta?.
that some protein fractions from the plasma do move naturally into the blood system of another individual (the fetus) may be another consideration when a christian is deciding whether he will accept immune globulin, albumin, or similar injections of plasma fractions.
one person may feel that he in good conscience can; another may conclude that he cannot.
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The best way to solve the issue on blood is by knowing the fact that the Noah's account is a legend copied from other legends and adapted to the Jewish Law. So God never said to the man : "do not eat blood", because the Flood (as told by the Bible) never happened. Futhermore, we are not descendants of Noah. ....On the other hand, when Jehovah's Witnesses eat a steak they eat blood.
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Did you hear this creationist song?.....Do you think that witnesses could hear it?
by opusdei1972 inthese guys are creationist,....there is a priest giving sacrifices to a god.... let's hear the song.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6tzssqyeae.
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These guys are creationist,....there is a priest giving sacrifices to a God.... let's hear the song
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How many Isaiah's prophecies of chapter 19 were fulfilled?
by opusdei1972 ini have read the chapter 19 of isaiah, which scholars of high criticism believe to be authentic, of isaiah himself.
in this chapter there are more than one prophecy for egypt.
my question is, how many of them you found fullfilled and unfulfilled?....
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I would like to read how the apologists explain the following prophecy of that chapter:
21 So the Lord will make himself known to the Egyptians, and in that day they will acknowledge the Lord . They will worship with sacrifices and grain offerings; they will make vows to the Lord and keep them. 22 The Lord will strike Egypt with a plague; he will strike them and heal them. They will turn to the Lord , and he will respond to their pleas and heal them.
23 In that day there will be a highway from Egypt to Assyria. The Assyrians will go to Egypt and the Egyptians to Assyria. The Egyptians and Assyrians will worship together. 24 In that day Israel will be the third, along with Egypt and Assyria, a blessing [ b ] on the earth. 25 The Lord Almighty will bless them, saying, ‘Blessed be Egypt my people, Assyria my handiwork, and Israel my inheritance.’
When did Egypt turn to Yahweh?,....when were Assyria, Egypt and Israel united in worshipping Yahweh?