The members of the Governing Body have to keep the flock in the theological fantasy. This is their task, otherwise most of the witnesses would be awake about the reality. You will see what will happen when the overlapping generation passes away (about 2034), the new members of the GB will have to invent a new patch for the understanding of Matthew 24:34.
opusdei1972
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Most absurd thing I heard at the convention yesterday!
by Batman89 inbrother lett was giving the last talk of the day about what they supposedly accomplished in 100 years.
i was just waking up so im paraphrasing alittle(i was dosing off all day) anyways in his introduction he said.
"there is more evidence to prove gods kingdom on the earth is a reality than wind,electricity and gravity is a reality on the earth".
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Advice Needed
by HeyThere inso my situation is changing and i am trying to figure out the best way for me to handle this.
i am an unbaptized publisher married to a dub who was inactive when we met and when we married and during the course of our marriage, and just went back active a year and a half ago.
he is a full believing dub.
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opusdei1972
I was disfellowshipped, because I had a wordly girlfriend, though I was a single man. Then, we (my girlfriend and I) had to separate us because I went back to my native country to finish my studies in the university. Then I knew a wordly woman, and I married her. Immediately after, I had to go to other country with my wife to begin my postgraduate studies. Then I felt that I should return to the organization to save my family of Armaggedon. I believed that the Watchtower had the Truth, although I was shocked when, in the past, I had to face a judiciary meeting with the elders when I confessed that I had a wordly girlfriend. .......I remember that they asked me about all the details of what I did in bed, though I did not want to tell them, they insisted with vehemence about every step of what I did........Then I was disfellowshipped because I decided not to leave her.....I remember that the elders told me that I took the same path of Adam, so we lost the paradise.
Well, being married, I returned to the organization after one year attending the meetings in a foreing country with my wife. My wife was convinced that the Organization had the Truth, but she was not so convinced of the blood ban. Then we had a babie, and she said that she would not know if she could leave our son to die for the blood ban. This is why she did not want to be baptized, because she was not sure if she could be ready to be loyal to "Jehovah" in that issue.
We always went regularly to the meetings with my son, but I was the only baptized one. Six years after, we (my wife and I) had a discussion about the blood ban, because I insisted that we must be loyal to Jehovah and she should decide soon to be baptized. Then, some time later, I became disappointed about the fanatic talks against higher education given by an elder of my congregation. Then I started to understand that there was something wrong and serious about the psycological treatment given by the leadership. My wife had noticed that, but in that time she was receiving a bible study with a sister.
Suddenly I told to my wife that It would be important to do a personal research about the blood ban and the history of the Society's policies. She agreed. Well, this is why I began to do a research of the Watchtower claims, though I was a Watchtower Apologist in the past. However, my eyes were opened and my wife and I understood that the Governing Body are a gang of liars.
Now, I and my family no longer support the Society nor we attend any of the meetings. Now my wife can celebrate christmas, her birthday, and we are happy to be free. I give thanks to God that my son of 8 years old have forget the Society, and he has his wordly friends as any normal boy. We believe that there is God, but we don't want to attend any church, but to leave in freedom with independent thinking.
Of course, I left the Society because we did a personal research about the Society's claims, but other would be the story if we would not have that independent thinking.
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PEACEFUL CO-EXISTENCE OF APOSTATES AND ADHERENTS!
by Pinku inin one place one person says: some sins are unforgivable, even after ones death.
(mathew 12:32).
in another place, another person says: anyone who has died has been set free from sin, for the wages of sin is death.
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opusdei1972
I think that Paul was refering to those faithful christians who die, and not of all people. This is my take.
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Who Donates Blood For Jehovah's Witnesses That Accept Blood Fragments?
by SanLuisObispoTruthSeeker inthe elders say "its very wrong to donate blood because you never know what the medical community is going to do with that blood.
" i asked one of the brothers who is a consultant at one of the medical centers, "why are we allowed to take blood fragments if were not allowed to donate blood?
" he/she refused to answer, just shook their head and walked away all red faced!
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opusdei1972
Some days ago my sister asked the same thing about why witnesses can't donate blood but they can accept blood fractions. The elders used the Old Testament to show that some things were permitted by the gentiles but were not for the Jews. So, my sister told them that we are not under the law of Moses, but they said that some principles remain. So, now I wonder, if some principles of the OT remain, we could take more than one wife, to kill cananites without mercy, etc.
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Elders answer questions about the changes of the blood ban
by opusdei1972 insome days ago two elders visited my sister because she has not been attending the meetings more than one year.
this time she prepared notes containing watchtower past teachings about the blood ban so as to ask them for those changes, and it seems that the elders were also prepared for her past questions.
for instance she showed them that "albumin" was considered "under scriptural ban" in 1956 (read the page 20 of awake, september 8).
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opusdei1972
AndDontCallMeShirley..Yes, my sister showed the quotations about the organ transplants and she asked them why blood transfusion is banned if the Society admits that this is the same as a tissue transplantation. They answered that the Governing Body knows why, because they have the right to decide.
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Elders answer questions about the changes of the blood ban
by opusdei1972 insome days ago two elders visited my sister because she has not been attending the meetings more than one year.
this time she prepared notes containing watchtower past teachings about the blood ban so as to ask them for those changes, and it seems that the elders were also prepared for her past questions.
for instance she showed them that "albumin" was considered "under scriptural ban" in 1956 (read the page 20 of awake, september 8).
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opusdei1972
This is why Marcion of Sinope had to reject the Old Testament because there he found contradictory statements against the love preached by Christ. In the Old Testament Rutherford found excelent examples to divide christians in classes, and so on. According to Wikipedia:
According to Marcion, the god of the Old Testament, whom he called the Demiurge, the creator of the material universe, is a jealous tribal deity of the Jews, whose law represents legalistic reciprocal justice and who punishes mankind for its sins through suffering and death. Contrastingly, the god that Jesus professed is an altogether different being, a universal god of compassion and love who looks upon humanity with benevolence and mercy. Marcion also produced his Antitheses contrasting the Demiurge of the Old Testament with the Heavenly Father of the New Testament.
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Elders answer questions about the changes of the blood ban
by opusdei1972 insome days ago two elders visited my sister because she has not been attending the meetings more than one year.
this time she prepared notes containing watchtower past teachings about the blood ban so as to ask them for those changes, and it seems that the elders were also prepared for her past questions.
for instance she showed them that "albumin" was considered "under scriptural ban" in 1956 (read the page 20 of awake, september 8).
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opusdei1972
Crazyguy Thank you for the link. ... So, as you know, if Hemopure comes from the blood of cows, the Society will continue to violate its concept of sacredness of blood, according to its original arguments. Indeed, this doctrine is a mess.
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Elders answer questions about the changes of the blood ban
by opusdei1972 insome days ago two elders visited my sister because she has not been attending the meetings more than one year.
this time she prepared notes containing watchtower past teachings about the blood ban so as to ask them for those changes, and it seems that the elders were also prepared for her past questions.
for instance she showed them that "albumin" was considered "under scriptural ban" in 1956 (read the page 20 of awake, september 8).
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opusdei1972
May be the Society has received many questions about why a fraction is permitted but other is banned, and the GB can't explain it by any logical argument. So they decided to keep quite.
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Genesis and the Babylonian kings list.
by Crazyguy inthe babylonians believed that the gods were immortal then they had offspring that were demigods and then they had humans so the first two of the list are different than the genesis writer wrote in chapter 5. this is how the names are translated.. babylonian kings list, genesis chapter 5.
1. aruru=a god 1. adam=man.
2. adapa= demigod 2. seth=gift of god.
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opusdei1972
I have read the Flood's account according to an Hindu Legend, it is very similar of that of Genesis. So I wonder if it was written before the babilonians.
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Elders answer questions about the changes of the blood ban
by opusdei1972 insome days ago two elders visited my sister because she has not been attending the meetings more than one year.
this time she prepared notes containing watchtower past teachings about the blood ban so as to ask them for those changes, and it seems that the elders were also prepared for her past questions.
for instance she showed them that "albumin" was considered "under scriptural ban" in 1956 (read the page 20 of awake, september 8).
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opusdei1972
Good point Crazyguy, ....the elders told her that may be they will visit her the next sunday. May be to anounce her that she will be disfellowshipped for apostasy. Who knows?