If sisters' new hubby "pretends" and goes to a few meetings the cong Elders may love bomb him, otherwise she should expect a marking talk to make an example of her for the other single sisters to not "walk disorderly".
Balaamsass2
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Marriage outside the religion punishable?
by Pattytheperfectone innow i know they have always discouraged marrying outside of their so called 'truth' but since when has it been a punishable offense?
my sister recently married and they are discussing wether her being married to an outsider will stumble others and if they need to reprove or disfellowship her for it..
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Ever notice how JW's can attend a talk or Convention and remember nothing?
by Wasanelder Once inhow many times have you asked a jw who has attended a public talk how the talk was, only to be told it was so great!
yet they cannot remember the title nor any one single point except that the brother was "funny" or was good with illustratiions or some other vauge point?
and conventions weren't far off either.
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Balaamsass2
LOL- During our fade JW family would talk about how we missed a great meeting, CO visit, or convention. We would simply say..wow..sonds like we missed a good one. What were the new points? What points & talks did you enjoy? Always met with blank stares.
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News Follow-up on 2002 Beheading and Kidnap of Jehovah's Witnesses.
by Balaamsass inwitnesses fail to identify abu sayyaf suspectsphilippine daily inquirer.
4:41 am | tuesday, december 4th, 2012 <span class="postauthor">posted by <a href="http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/author/besguerra" title="posts by besguerra" rel="author">besguerra</a></span>0665start share this /metas suspected abu sayyaf terrorists wrongly arrested for the 2002 abduction of several jehovahs witnesses in patikul, sulu, may be released before the end of the month.. twenty-one accused claiming innocence were presented at a hearing on the reinvestigation of the kidnap-for-ransom case conducted by the department of justice on monday, but eight of them were pointed to by two witnessesone of them a former hostageas being members of the terror group.. it was the third reinvestigation of the aug. 20, 2002, abduction of four women and two men who were members of the religious group in patikul.. the two men were beheaded by the abu sayyaf while the women were rescued by police and the military.. at the start of the hearing, senior assistant state prosecutor peter ong said it was the prosecutors themselves who pushed for the reinvestigation.. we noticed, for instance, two persons being arrested under one name and we noticed an injustice there, said ong, adding that the pasig rtc ordered them to conduct the reinvestigation in 60 days.. all 21 abu sayyaf members who were handcuffed were made to line up for identification in batches to face two of the three witnesses who were brought in, their faces concealed.. of the 21, the eight who were pointed to by two witnesses denied the accusation.. one of the eight, julhassan a. jaani ybanez, was identified by the female witness as the one who beheaded her husband.. but ybanez denied this, saying he was an imam (muslim leader) and an assistant of col. akho san juan, the military chaplain of the western mindanao command.
he said he was arrested in 2006. christine o. avendano.
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Balaamsass2
Update today:
Top Abu Sayyaf leader killed in clash with security forces
An unidentified government soldier was also killed during the incident
Manila: The palace on Sunday confirmed that another key member of the Abu Sayyaf was killed in an encounter with government forces in Sulu.
Sihata Latip, also known as Sihata Muallom Asmad, was killed when he tried to resist arrest by a joint police-military team in the village of Duyan Kaha in the town of Parang, Presidential Communication Operations Office Secretary Herminio Coloma, Jr., said in an interview aired by government radio stationdzRB.
Reports said that Latip carries a P5.3-million (Dh433,414) $118,000) bounty, but government sources provided no information to that effect.
“The elimination of Latip proves the government’s determination to address and stop crimes perpetrated by lawless elements such as the Abu Sayyaf group in Sulu,” Coloma said.
An unidentified government soldier was also killed during the incident.
“The name of the soldier will be released as soon as the armed forces of the Philippines have notified his family,” Coloma said.
Latip, according to Col. Alan Arrojado, chief of Task Group Sulu, had been involved in the kidnapping of 15 workers of the Golden Harvest Plantation in Basilan as well as the abduction of sixteen members of the non-Catholic Jehovah’s Witnesses in 2002.
Arrojado said the reason for the Saturday arrest of Latip was in connection with the Golden Harvest Plantation and Jehovah’s Witnesses abduction incidents.
“Latip had been positively identified as one of the Abu Sayyaf gunmen who took part in these incidents,” Arrojado said.
Last November 14, government forces killed Abu Sayyaf Group sub-leader Hairullah Asbang and eight other rebels.
Coloma encouraged Sulo residents to continue cooperating with authorities.
“We are asking full cooperation of the people in Sulu to put an end to the senseless crimes in the province,” said Coloma.
The incident in Parang followed the November 1 attack by the Abu Sayyaf in Basilan that killed six government soldiers. Basilan is located about 100 kilometres away from Sulu.
Soldiers of the army’s 64th infantry battalion were guarding an under-construction portion of the Basilan Circumferential Road in the village of Libug in the town of Sumisip when a group of Abu Sayyaf gunmen pounced on them at around 7:30am.
The soldiers were providing security for workers trying to finish the 64-km Basilan Circumferential Road. The government road project intends to bring development to the insurgency-infested southern Philippines island.
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No longer to use "house to house record" slips and "please follow up slips"!
by stuckinarut2 ina letter has just been read out indicating that effective immediately, witnesses are no longer to use the s-8 slip known as the "house to house" record slip, as well as the s-43 "please follow up" slip (usually used for foreign language people).. the letter stated that this is because of the changes in privacy laws etc that are becoming common in the world today.. i will try and get a copy of the full letter and post it asap.. .
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Balaamsass2
Interesting post. It shows Watchtower IS terrified of more lawsuits!!!!!!!
Found it interesting during a refresher for work all the new USA privacy laws -State AND Federal. The new "Affordable care Act" (Obama care). has some laws with real teeth for disclosing just about anything with personal data, but especially Medical information. A number of insurance companies and medical facilities have been hit with ONE MILLION DOLLAR + lawsuits already. VERBAL disclosure of patient medical charts is big NO NO $$.
It is just a matter of time before the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society is sued because of a nosy Jehovah's Witness in Medical Records or visiting ratting out a congregation member to the Elders for a Blood Transfusion, wrong blood fraction, STD, or pregnancy.
Some of the million dollars suits have been for mere DISCLOSURE. The awards for disclosure and DEFAMATION could be HUGE. If the JW lost a job or customers add even more $$$.
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Chuck Morse Interviews Barbara Anderson "WatchTowers CHILD ABUSE Reporting Policies"
by OUTLAW ini`ve just received this from barbara anderson..it`s her interview with radio personality chuck morse..thanks barbara!...
morse, who is known for his free-wheeling and insightful intellectual style, was named to the list of heavy 100 radio talk show hosts by talkers magazine, and as the national right to work committee communicator of the year in 2003.
"i have developed a reputation for inviting guests who express opinions on all sides of issues.
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Balaamsass2
Thanks for the share!! EXCELLENT interview. Share this with family and friends on the fence.
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Reverse Disfellowshipping
by ctrwtf ini'm into the 7th year of a successful fade.
when i'm at the market i still see some of my former "friends" trying to avoid eye contact.
although i'm not df'd i may as well be in their eyes.
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Balaamsass2
"half a day to get the toxins out of your system"- great quote. The JW family drama IS a bit much.
We have been trying to be a bit over the top happy and friendly whenever we run into JW family or locals. Saying we are doing FANTASTIC, we have been BLESSED and how are YOU and your FAMILY doing?? really seems to cause confusion and discomfort for hard core JWs. For those on the fence it gives them hope there is a great life outside the borg. They have been brainwashed that sadness and devil will grab anyone who leaves..a happy life is the best response to shunning.
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What should the WBT$ do to get on track?
by punkofnice init looks as if the gb are blundering around and really showing themselves up for the buffoons they are.
all the stupidity about tight trousers is laughable and if the general public were to see these selfmportant cult leaders blabbing this stuff then the last shred of their credibility would be destroyed.........perhaps.. the wbt$ seem to have dug themselves into a deep pit of no escape with their lies, new light(tm), paedophile protection and all the other nauseating peripherals they have.. we also suspect that the wbt$ have their spies here because they are either predictable or get ideas form forums like this.. so!
are you listening watchtower(r)?
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Balaamsass2
Abandon all the 15th century mumbo -Jumbo. Salem Mass. Puritans would feel at home as modern day Jehovah's Witnesses. Stop labeling all free thinking and discussion as Apostacy. Stop the "spiritual burning" and banishment of "Heritics" and petty sinners.
1. Accept common separation of Church and State concepts of the 16th Century. If a crime has been commited by a member REPORT it to Ceasar.
2. At a minimum accept blood prohibitions of Orthadox Jews ie: LIFE is sacred..NOT blood. Blood REPRESENTS LIFE. Get OUT of practicing medicine without a license. Accept medically needed transfusions.
3. Pick a team. If they want to be Jews, accept ALL levitical prohibitions and OPEN Courts. IF they want to be Christians, Be Christians, and stop adding Bronze age mumbo jumbo rules.
4. If they choose to be a Christian faith, decide if they are Catholic or not. JWs have adopted the structure of the Catholic church with confessions, Cardinals and Popes.
5. If they want any respect as "Christians" show some Christlike humility, apologise and stop the lies, fraud ("spiritual warfare"), SCAMs (RBC remodels, Assembly hall accounting fraud, Disaster insurance scams, Loans, etc).
Wow- this list could go on and on..........
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Anyone know of df'ing for taking a br. to Court (esp. if Cdn)?
by berrygerry inmost jw's have been told that taking a fellow jw to court is wrong.. the shepherd book uses wts speak: "if an individual ignores god's word on this matter, it may affect his congregation privileges.
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the following are from an interesting case in canada ( link ):.
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Balaamsass2
The Menlo Park Elders for suing WTBTS.
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I need an answer from an Elder or someone who knows!
by Truth and Justice inmy brother after so many years decides to call me.
i am totally surprised.
i didn't know what to think.. so i began to open up by saying "hey ______, what a surprise!
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Balaamsass2
Great news! I have heard some blowback from JWs from crazy Tony Morris's talk. He may have been on the net.
