Biggest lie?
Watchtower and the Governing body are "Chosen" or "Spirit directed".
i would like to start a thread on lies that the watchtower and their reps have told.
surely we all have one or two that truly sticks out in our memories, no matter how much we would like to forget.
my favorite wt lie: the reason they don't want to release the name of the "scholars" who worked on the new world translation is because they do not want to accept "glory and honor" from others.
Biggest lie?
Watchtower and the Governing body are "Chosen" or "Spirit directed".
news is that the ramapo project has been approved by authorities and can move forward..
My relative, the 1940s Bethelite and Branch overseers' words keep coming back to me: " Don't do what Watchtower says....do what they do". "They keep planning and investing for the future".
They have always had undisclosed offsite farms and buildings on the down low.
in the past, we used to hear talks on:.
avoiding sexual immorality and porn, as well as masturbation and other sexual practices.
why evolution cannot possibly be true.
Is it easier to be a JW now. Yes, perhaps.
Fewer hours in meetings. ( No separate book study). Shorter Talks.
Way fewer hours in field Service for Pioneers, and Servants.
Less rigorous dress and grooming rules.
Easier to be reinstated.
But much harder to remain MENTALLY in. Abundant information in books and the on the internet that abundantly proves they are morally deficient and in NO WAY CHOSEN BY A MORAL CREATOR. Obviously, Elders and Servants are not vetted by the organization, or HOLY SPIRIT (if it exists). Obviously Watchtower is complicit in covering over crimes. What moral person WANTS to associate with an immoral organization?
beninu andersen.
denmark.
i am not aware of how many of you are familiar with the danish case of a jehovah's witness who was hospitalized after a tragic accident where he fell several floors from a scaffolding where he was working.. the patient was admitted to the intensive care unit and was conscious (albeit somewhat confused) for the first three weeks.
Thanks Barb!
when i was in the org it seemed most brothers were very much into football and other sports.
which looking back makes no sense and makes me wonder why?
it felt like an overcompensating to be masculine.. shouldn't football be deemed unchristian?
Lol. I seem to remember some Watchtowers about competition and violence in sports and TV in the 1980s. I ignored them. Wife #1 the "pioneer" didn't forget and accused me on being "a man of violence" while I was watching the 49ers in a football play-off one weekend, caped with an old John Wayne movie! She stomped out of the house. Evidently, it was to complain to an elder neighbor 2 blocks away. When she got there, the entire family and another elder were watching the same things! lol. ( the family recounted the story to me years later). :)
Church Lady on Football: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgMkBNWuquo&list=PLuiwnTWuEF8P4sjlF94Ip9ZkXeYHpW4Nd&index=3
watchtower put out some highlights for the 2024 service year:.
average publishers: 8,828,124. peak publishers: 9,043,460. a 43.2 percent increase in "those who returned to jehovah", meaning 65,816 were reinstated.
baptized: 296,267. memorial attendance: 21,119,442. missing stat: number of partakers .. womp womp.
Watchtower lies about dates and "prophecy". They lie about Child and senior abuse. They lie about financial statements at conventions. They lie on their tax returns. They lie in court. It is considered "Theocratic strategy". Why should anyone believe their membership numbers?
A "new" congregation in the third world can mean 30 people set up benches under a tree, and follow whatever the only local semi-literate male tells them.
Religion is a snare and a racket.
my only prowess in making predictions stems from my 77-years of life in the united statesgrowing up under president truman, eisenhower, kennedy, nixon, .....etc.
etc.i was a widdle kid sitting in front of a tiny black and white tv set when the very first broadcastsof political conventions, deal-making, debates (nixon vs kennedy), assassinations (jfk, rfk, martin luther king, etc.
) i grew up with duck and cover under my elementary schooldesk, the cold war, the iron curtain, the korean war, the vietnam war and i went to federal prisonas a jw conscientious objector while hippies, flower children, political activists protested and universitystudents were fired up on by troops.i grew up reading newspapers (2 of them).
I expected the election to be a coin toss. I am surprised that such flawed candidates are chosen out of hundreds of millions of people. The propensity of humans to need "cults", gurus, sky daddies, and strong men astounds and worries me.
my only prowess in making predictions stems from my 77-years of life in the united statesgrowing up under president truman, eisenhower, kennedy, nixon, .....etc.
etc.i was a widdle kid sitting in front of a tiny black and white tv set when the very first broadcastsof political conventions, deal-making, debates (nixon vs kennedy), assassinations (jfk, rfk, martin luther king, etc.
) i grew up with duck and cover under my elementary schooldesk, the cold war, the iron curtain, the korean war, the vietnam war and i went to federal prisonas a jw conscientious objector while hippies, flower children, political activists protested and universitystudents were fired up on by troops.i grew up reading newspapers (2 of them).
I am a bit surprised by the sweeping results in most National and State results.
However if you are a working class family that hasn't had a major pay raise in the last 4 years, paying 28% more for your weekly groceries may explain the results. Working class people without college degrees are the majority in the USA.
One lady interviewed leaving the polling station said "I like Beyonce, but she doesn't pay for my groceries".
This morning's WSJ take: " The education gap grew. Those without a college degree moved rightward, according to the data. Harris won college-educated voters by 16 percentage points on Tuesday, while Trump won those without a college degree by nine points, according to VoteCast. That is a difference of 25 percentage points. Back in 2020, Biden won college-educated voters by 16 points—the same as Harris—but Trump won those without a degree by only 4 points—for a difference of 20 points.
The nation’s political divide around educational attainment has been growing for years and these results suggest it isn’t likely to stop soon.
The GOP also made big gains with nonwhite voters. Among Black voters, Trump saw his share of the vote grow to 15%, compared with 8% in 2020, according to AP VoteCast. There was a similar jump with Hispanics. On Tuesday, Trump won 41% of the Hispanic vote, 6 points higher than in 2020.
The biggest increase came from Black people who didn’t have a college degree.
In addition, Trump yet again rallied more rural white voters, helping him run up margins in a number of states. In 2016 and 2020, critics were skeptical that Trump could find enough voters in rural counties to compete with all the votes coming out of big urban centers, but he did it again on Tuesday." https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/election-results-2024-takeaways-7fbd81f1?st=mKfEXg&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink
my only prowess in making predictions stems from my 77-years of life in the united statesgrowing up under president truman, eisenhower, kennedy, nixon, .....etc.
etc.i was a widdle kid sitting in front of a tiny black and white tv set when the very first broadcastsof political conventions, deal-making, debates (nixon vs kennedy), assassinations (jfk, rfk, martin luther king, etc.
) i grew up with duck and cover under my elementary schooldesk, the cold war, the iron curtain, the korean war, the vietnam war and i went to federal prisonas a jw conscientious objector while hippies, flower children, political activists protested and universitystudents were fired up on by troops.i grew up reading newspapers (2 of them).
As an "independent"(like 30% of the USA) I am unimpressed by most candidates on the ballot. The Presidential race is very tight tonight. The independent voters, especially women will probably decide the winner in the key states.
VERY few political signs out in my town tonight. This California County voted Trump in two past elections. There has been political violence and lots of threats in the past elections. A number of local poll workers and county election workers have quit this year due to threats. The local Militias have invited the "Proud Boys" from other areas here in the past, and I imagine they will again this week. Interesting read in the Journal today (unlocked below).. https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/the-proud-boys-have-regrouped-and-are-signaling-election-plans-de7a1f45?st=VHrLeT&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink
my only prowess in making predictions stems from my 77-years of life in the united statesgrowing up under president truman, eisenhower, kennedy, nixon, .....etc.
etc.i was a widdle kid sitting in front of a tiny black and white tv set when the very first broadcastsof political conventions, deal-making, debates (nixon vs kennedy), assassinations (jfk, rfk, martin luther king, etc.
) i grew up with duck and cover under my elementary schooldesk, the cold war, the iron curtain, the korean war, the vietnam war and i went to federal prisonas a jw conscientious objector while hippies, flower children, political activists protested and universitystudents were fired up on by troops.i grew up reading newspapers (2 of them).
It is a coin toss.
We are still rebuilding after giving 50+ years of our lives to a cult. I now can see many different types of cults all around us, and people eager to do obeisance to religions, imaginary "sky daddies", ideologies, and politicians.
In the last few weeks I watched Ridley Scott's "Napoleon", and documentaries about the 100 year wars, the English Civil War, and1930s Germany. Sadly, history just keeps repeating itself. :(