smiddy, if it wasnt for the fact my kids were with me in the same hotel room at conventions,
having sex would have been on my everynight to do list, lol
phizzy, that story was funny!
the dreaded phrase i will never miss!!!.
some of the ones i had to hear ,.
we cant go over grandmas... till after the meeting.
smiddy, if it wasnt for the fact my kids were with me in the same hotel room at conventions,
having sex would have been on my everynight to do list, lol
phizzy, that story was funny!
this letter was sent as an addendum to the elders regarding their latest elders textbook.
i think you'll find this interesting and also disconcerting as well.. to all bodies of elders.
re: spiral binding of shepherding textbook.
wow, they must think they are going to need to use this book an awful lot, or study it a lot for them to even care to have it spiral bound!
talk about petty
i hope no one here get's injured when they see this and their jaw hits the floor:.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=689701664435095&set=vb.100001858044479&type=2&theater.
so, i suppose thats ok but some kids getting together at the kingdom hall to practice a bible play or play bible games is wrong? ok then.
if I showed this to my mother shed think it was fake you tube propaganda and not beileve it.
the oldest in tact bible found is the codex voronicus, (miss spelled) and the oldest writings ever found were the greek septuagint written by jews in alexandria.
both of these collections of writings included the apocryphal and other writings like chapters and other verses of daniel not included in the jw bible.
so the question one must ask, is if your a bible believer how can you just throw out these writings, because reading these additional writings will change your understanding of what you have learned?.
i think a lot of people need to read the book misquoting jesus, the story of who changed the bible and why by bart erman
might give you some understanding on that.
as you know i am still in but have no strong conviction for this cult..but i still go because my wife is still asleep to the false teachings.
for a few months now...when we have family study it is stricly from the bible.
which is great, while we study we are taking the bible as it is, i think it is opening her eyes and how important jesus is.
you may wish to read the book 'misquoting jesus' the story behind who changed the bible and why, by bart erhman easy read,and
pretty interesting.
a super bat-shit crazy invitation to pioneer in august??
i stumbled upon something the other day, but i have been hesitant to post it.
i am afraid that it could be a local thing and thereby traced back to me.
im sure ill hear it from my 73 yr old mother who will sign up despite the fact that she should be trying to get thier house sold before my father falls down the steps and dies. oh, thats right husbands arent as important as the org.
ok, i'll admit it...i am weak.... as everyone knows, the pressure to "pioneer" during "the most momentous, awesome, amazing, centenary anniversay of jesus invisble kigdom rule, & distribute tracts about a dodgy website" campaign is very strong at the moment.... also, many will have read my threads about the extreme views and expectations in our cong for "all appointed men to pioneer" etc..... every elder and ms and their families have been announced as pioneering....i mean everyone's name was read out except mine..... i was not going to do it, as i do not believe anyone should be forced...(and of course its the last thing on earth i would rather do anyway since learning ttatt).
but i am not quite ready to make the break yet, so i realised that i would stand out more if i didnt put in a form to pioneer.
yes it would make me more conspicious, and make fading harder to do...it would bring more heat on me if i didnt pioneer.. so i gave in and submitted a form.... now, of course, i'm only going to make sure i'm seen at the key field service groups etc...but then go and do something more interesting...like count blades of grass..... ahh....i feel hypocritical to myself now......
i always thought it was pathetic and ignorant to read peoples names of the platform when they 'signed up'
talk about bragging and boasting, and getting brownie points. akkk
today i was at the meeting (i go there about once a month now).
in the service meeting they had a part where they interviewed the secretary of the congregation.. so one question was: "why are the service reports so important?".
our secretary explained that the reports are important, because the elders can see, who is spiritually weak.
wow! i cant belive that dontcallmeshirly that someone said most jws will not qualify.
qualify??? DID Jesus doe for us or not? did he say men have to qualify for his free gift?
who the heck are they to put requirements back on mankind???
id have got up and left. and who is the Judge here ? Jesus Im pretty sure, thank God.
what happens if someone returns to the congregation but stays inactive?
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what happens if someone returns to the congregation and does not meet with the elders to "confess" their sins while away?.
bafh, Im sorry you feel so torn, but i hope you can let go of all the anxiety and just be a good person and respond in kind to everyone. to place yourself under the rule of men who do things that are contrary to Jesus teachings is going to continue to cause you anxiety.
if your half way out and no one really is giving you any problems be glad your off the radar, just fade away and be at peace.
Ive spent too much time reading and worrying about what my next step is going to be , and i too am stuck trying to stay connected with my extended, jw family, fortunately very limited contact,
and not put waves in the pond, and yet trying to branch out and live my life apart from all the worry and stress of my past as being a jw.
try to put the past out of your mind, dwelling on it does no good. pretend it never exsisted sometimes thats the only way to cope.
I too hope somehow, to be more social.
I hope i can attend an adult educational class or do some volunteering. [i know thats spelled wrong] so you might think of those ways that work for you.
on another note everyone seems to be having trouble with getting a socail life, its these darn computers and cell phones that have messed up humanity
from the wording of the letter it seems that the co has been given carte blanche with appointments and deletions.
nowhere in the letter does it indicate that any records are sent to and from the co to the branch office.
even if a body wants to delete an appointed brother and he disagrees his only recourse would be to write a "brief" letter to the service dept.
so, according to that letter, if you were a man who had done some time in jail in the past, and then accepted a study at the door
progressed up the ladder, and got baptised, you could never ne a ministerial servant of elder. because apparently now your prior jw life disqualifies you.
hmmm.
so the co comes along and 'approves' or 'disapproves' someone he knows nothing about.
wow, thats rich,