Posts by kairos

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Do they prepare for preaching or do they socialize?

by never a jw in

my brother (a jw for 30 years) and i purchased a duplex.

he lives in one house, i live in the other, our common area separating both houses is the backyard.

we both can see each other's house across our common backyard.

kairos

Oh... and out of territory calls that are never home.

'Start your time' at a laundry-matte, then a two hour round trip with a coffee break in the middle...

< zealous "christians" >

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Do they prepare for preaching or do they socialize?

by never a jw in

my brother (a jw for 30 years) and i purchased a duplex.

he lives in one house, i live in the other, our common area separating both houses is the backyard.

we both can see each other's house across our common backyard.

kairos

It became the custom that immediately after the morning text, the group would drive straight to the coffee shop.

Drive back and forth across town, wasting time without really doing anything except gossip or talk about the fun stuff they did or are planning to do after 'service'. Rarely talking to anyone.

Another JW told me once, he counts the time he had set aside to preach.
It didn't matter what the group did. He counted the time.

The yearly totals are completely fabricated and mean nothing.

I can't believe I never faked my time. What a waste!

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Early morning service was a colossal joke as well.
Meet at 7:00am. Drive to private laundry rooms in apartment complexes leaving magazines on the appliances.

Usually, the old mags were still there or in the trash can. Sometimes torn in pieces.

The most pathetic part was when this would be carried out from a 6 or more passenger van. You'd be out for two hours and only get out a few times, just to switch out the old mags and count the placement.
The rest of the time, drinking coffee and eating snacks and chatting it up. Such a waste...

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Another brother steps back

by konceptual99 in

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friends

so at the meeting this week it was announced that a certain brother was no longer serving as a ministerial servant.. this is a guy who was brought up in a different country as his family went to serve where the need was greater.

this is a guy who was home schooled and went straight into pioneering.

he then went and worked on building projects in various places in europe and africa.

kairos

I had quite the experience when I resigned as a MS.

I told one elder, in person, that I no longer want to be a servant.
I also said, I do not want to talk to anyone about it.

They bought that!

They cut me loose within a week or so.

Funny part of the story is the elder running the first part of the meeting pulls me aside and confesses to me of his previous deletion(s) and offered to let me open the meeting in prayer.

I took that. It was amazing.
I'm sure people were freaking out, especially since I answered three more times after the announcement during the remainder of the meeting.

It was the start of a solid fade.
Then they triggered me...

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What's your passion???

by Faith after Deception in

yesterday, i was feeling very blue.

this is quite unusual for me, as i tend to be quite an upbeat, positive person, so spells of sadness or depression take me by surprise and are a real shock to the system.

you know, i don’t believe in “putting on a face” or pretending to be ok; this “fake it ’til you make it” malarkey has never been something i’ve liked.

kairos

After exiting the JWs I took my trombone playing to the professional level.
I rehearse every week with multiple groups and get paid to perform!

Dream come true.

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Seeing Cognitive Dissonance First Hand And The Stress It Causes

by JW_Rogue in

okay, so a little update on my situation.

me and my wife have spoken more about what i've been thinking lately.

although, i didn't go as far as to say that i no longer believe.

kairos

If I had to do all of this over again, I too would choose slow and steady.

I went 'all in', right away.
That rarely works.

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Three years later, my wife still attends all of the meetings, mans a trolley and says she's going to "wait on Jehovah". ( Wait and see attitude )

I'm DFd for 'admitted apostasy'.

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Celebration for those on JWD

by Quarterback in

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friends

so let's just say that the wt org is now finished.

families with da/df members are now reunited.

everyone is burning their med directive cards.

kairos

When WT collapses for good, it will be nothing but trauma and sadness for any active JW.

It would be like Satan won at Armageddon for them.
Jehovah lost.

I expect mass suicides. Terrible.

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Celebration will be for a time after the horrors are uncovered and the healing begins.

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Be ready to help those family and friends that have nothing left but 'the apostates' they have been showering with love by shunning them all these years.

I don't know if I'm up to it, to be honest.
Some of those guys were just dicks!

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Rumor: Discouraging news from GB at upcoming CA?

by bohm in

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friends

this is on the reddit frontpage and sounds super weird.

can it be confirmed in any way by anyone here?.

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/4u72dk/what_kind_of_announcement_could_cause_jws_to/.

kairos

There are so many hardcore core dubs, that I could see all meetings being conducted from homes after ALL WTS property is liquidated to pay international legal costs and they'd still 'wait on Jehovah'. Even donating to an ORG that has no visible presence.

Oh, wait!! That's it. It will become an invisible, overlapping organization- the only true mouthpiece of G.O.D.

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Mass exodus is underway. I really do feel that way.

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Judge sanctions WTS - $4k per day penalty for not producing sex abuse documents

by Simon in

judge sanctions jehovah's witnesses.

imposes $4000-a-day penalty for not producing documents in sex-abuse case.

by dorian hargrove, june 24, 2016. a san diego superior court judge has ordered the church of jehovah's witnesses, also known as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, to pay $4000 a day for every day that it fails to produce documents requested in a civil lawsuit brought by former parishioner, osbaldo padron, who claims a church elder sexually abused him when he was seven years old.. in a june 23 ruling, expected to be made final today, judge richard strauss admonished the church for willfully ignoring a court order to produce all documents associated with a 1997 body of elders letter that church leaders sent to parishes around the world in a quest to learn about sexual abuse of children by church leaders.. over the course of the past year, the watchtower society and its lawyers have fought hard to keep the letter confidential, claiming that turning over the documents would infringe on the privacy of those mentioned in the letter that were not associated with the case.. in march 2015, the church turned over a heavily redacted version of the letter.