good point. It is not like the demons dominated the heavens before 1914.... their doctrine for 1914 has no basis
1914 was just a year wen a war on earth started. Nothing to do with God's kingdom.
i was just thinking about how the wts has been spouting off for years that satan and his demons were cast down to the vicinity of the earth in 1914, but really, when you think about it, what was the difference before 1914 or after 1914?.
its not like satan and his demons did not have access to the earth.
satan and his demons always were messing with earth.
good point. It is not like the demons dominated the heavens before 1914.... their doctrine for 1914 has no basis
1914 was just a year wen a war on earth started. Nothing to do with God's kingdom.
this is interesting, jw's go to the door of a biblical scholar, a professor in theology i believe, and he invites them in and records the whole conversation.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xpo43bgdbm.
This is interesting, jw's go to the door of a biblical scholar, a professor in theology I believe, and he invites them in and records the whole conversation.
i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
this is my first post.
i never dreamed i'd be on a site like this.
i was baptized 43 years ago and pretty much have done and seen it all.
welcome.
just wanted to let you know there are others out there who believe the same about condition of the dead, immortality of the soul, kingdom on earth, oneness of God, without being anyway affiliated with the watchtower, and without demanding that people obey rules made by a group of people.
pardon my ignorance but lm a newby in here.lve tried researching it but l cant find a definitive answer.ls it dealing with one particular subject or multiple subjects?.thankyou in advance.regards atomant.my mistake.i meant ttatt.sorry.
TTATT is this:
Watchtower does not have the truth, nor are they God's organization.
i found this article on the wt changing doctrine about jesus.
it is probably written by an ex jw since there are quotes from old publications.
http://thehumanjesus.org/?p=2410.
I found this article on the wt changing doctrine about Jesus.
It is probably written by an ex jw since there are quotes from old publications.
in wt land: that 144000 people from earth will become this new creatures who will live in the heaven with God, probably because God did not have enough angels ...
in the Bible: that people can become immortal (not immortal spirits, but immortal people with a physical body), like Jesus became after his resurrection.
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continued from part 1 (http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5097191899136000/john-1-1-colossians-1-16-all-other-things):.
the nw translation and some of its unique renderings, like john 1.1- "a god," and colossians 1.16 - "all other things," have been consistently at the top of the most debated topics here in this forum and elsewhere from the beginning.
the anger felt by detractors of the nwt rendering of john 1.1 (a god) has diminished considerably if compared to the furious debates surrounding the verse that raged on during the 1950 thru 1970s.
Everything in the new creation is created through Jesus, not in the old creation.
"Look, I make all things new" really means what it says.
Jesus was not an angel before he was born as a human, read Hebrews 2:5, actually entire Hebrews ch. 1+2
to my surprise, i found this: .
the overlapping generations model is an economic model .... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/overlapping_generations_model.
if those people from wt are inspired, why can't they at least come up with something original .....
@ wallsofjericho,
Is that true? Because I never heard of the idea before the doctrine change .... did you read that info in some old magazines?