Posts by OrphanCrow

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JW's really are NOT really neutral in politics - Proof

by LevelThePlayingField in

from: https://www.jw.org/en/news/legal/legal-resources/information/.

(emphasis is mine).

“jehovah’s witnesses do not involve themselves in political issues or governmental affairs.

OrphanCrow

Watchtower's NGO name:

Watchtower International

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Newspaper reports: Dutch government will initiate inquiry into child abuse within JW community

by Anders Andersen in

today a dutch newspaper published an in-depth follow-up item on jw abuse issues.. the most interesting part of the article is this:.

the politicians also let themselves be heard.

a month ago the house of representatives voted unanimously in favor of a motion to enforce an independent inquiry into abuse within the jehovah's witnesses, as the organization refuses to initiate it.

OrphanCrow

Doubter: So there are more pedo priests in Philly ALONE than there have ever been elders, Co’s Do’s in the 140 year world wide history of jws.

Lol!

You are so funny

And still, the comparisons aren’t even close. So I understand why this upsets you.

Lol! again...so humorous.

No, I am not upset. I am laughing

Especially when some stranger with poor math skills tries to assign feelings to me

Too fucking funny

And it isn't even Sunday morning yet

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Newspaper reports: Dutch government will initiate inquiry into child abuse within JW community

by Anders Andersen in

today a dutch newspaper published an in-depth follow-up item on jw abuse issues.. the most interesting part of the article is this:.

the politicians also let themselves be heard.

a month ago the house of representatives voted unanimously in favor of a motion to enforce an independent inquiry into abuse within the jehovah's witnesses, as the organization refuses to initiate it.

OrphanCrow

Doubter: And there is this little tid-bit of info I forgot to mention. The Catholic Church just had almost 400 priests, a Cardlnal, and Bishop just in Washington, Philly, Chile and Australia alone resign because they were pedophiles. We are not talking lay people here — this is leadership and high ranking leadership.
That’s impunity. Find me 400 circuit overseers or elders in the entire history of Jws that were serial pedophiles.
Why do I mention them? Because they are the standard of abuse coverups. They are the mesuring stick.

And...here is a little tidbit back at you.

Your "mesuring" stick is broken.

I think your concept is good. Comparing the RC to JWs is valid. But, it would benefit you to go to school and learn a little it about how to use the tidbits that you pull out of your ass.

400 priests? From a membership of over 1.3 billion? And you actually think that finding 400 COs etc from a membership of about 8 million is a fair comparison? Where did you learn to do math?

Here is a tidbit back at you: if there are/were only THREE COs in the entire history of the JWs that are/were pedophiles, the magnitude would exceed that tidbit that you pulled out of your nether regions.

Learn how to do some math and then come back on here.

I bet you can defend the overlapping generation bullshit too

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Breitbart Report on JW "Russia persecution" sparks comments battle

by TerryWalstrom in

https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2018/07/27/exclusive-jehovahs-witnesses-face-harsh-persecution-in-putins-russia/_________in my daily sweep of the web for interesting jw articles, the above link popped up.the report is probably propped up by a stream of watchtower propaganda publicity releases to the media.but what struck me was the comments below the article.. give it read and join in if you feel moved..

OrphanCrow

zeb: Could anyone please translate the footage please

Youtube provides this translation:

MGB LNR suppressed the extremist activity of a religious organization

The Ministry of State Security in the territory of the Luhansk People's Republic suppressed the destructive activity of the extremist religious organization "All-Ukrainian Union of Evangelical Churches Christian Baptists."
This religious organization centered in Kiev evaded compulsory state registration, carried out destructive activities on the territory of the Republic.
Its leaders organized and held mass events in violation of the requirements of paragraphs 2.1 to 2.2 of the Decree of the Head of the Luhansk People's Republic of 04.05.2015 No. 169/01/05/15 "On the application of certain measures related to limiting the conduct of mass events provided for by the Law of the Lugansk People's Republic "On the Martial Law", Articles 17 and 18 of the Law of the Republic of Belarus "On Freedom of Conscience and Religious Associations" No. 211- II of February 2, 2018. The
idea of forcible seizure of the Republics of the Armed Forces was preached in the religious association, close ties were maintained with representatives of the Ukrainian nationals alistic armed formations.

To achieve their goals, representatives of the All-Ukrainian Union of Evangelical Churches Christian Baptists ("WCC ECB") in the territory of the People's Republic of China subjected their "parishioners" to psychological influence with the use of psychotropic drugs. In the course of the operational activities it was also established that the WCC ECB attracted medical workers from medical institutions of the Republic who took part in the organization and conduct of mass religious events, carrying out private medical activities without coordination with the relevant ministry.
When checking the activities of the organization, printed publications, audio and video materials were created to incite hatred and hostility based on nationality, origin, membership of a social group, as well as the justification of war crimes committed by Kiev security officials against civilians in the Donbas. According to experts' conclusions, the literature found is recognized as extremist.
Further measures are being taken to identify, suppress and block the illegal activities of religious organizations in the territory of the People's Republic of China, including those related to the distribution of religious prints of an extremist nature.

To achieve their goals, representatives of the All-Ukrainian Union of Evangelical Churches Christian Baptists ("WCC ECB") in the territory of the People's Republic of China subjected their "parishioners" to psychological influence with the use of psychotropic drugs.

In the course of the operational activities it was also established that the WCC ECB attracted medical workers from medical institutions of the Republic who took part in the organization and conduct of mass religious events, carrying out private medical activities without coordination with the relevant ministry.

When checking the activities of the organization, printed publications, audio and video materials were created to incite hatred and hostility based on nationality, origin, membership of a social group, as well as the justification of war crimes committed by Kiev security officials against civilians in the Donbas. According to experts' conclusions, the literature found is recognized as extremist.

Further measures are being taken to identify, suppress and block the illegal activities of religious organizations in the territory of the People's Republic of China, including those related to the distribution of religious prints of an extremist nature.

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Go Bags, Safe houses and cartoon of two kids.

by scruffmcbuff in

i have been out a good 10+ years and until recently didnt pay much attention to what the jehovahs are up to.. why have they taken this turn with the bunker videos and making all the brainwashed people like my parents pack a go bag.

now let me just clarify.

im a military man i believe everyone should have an element of preparedness canned goods,bottled water and a bug out bag is a great addition ( ill stop waffling on about that now).. but what concerns me is the fact they are advising elderly people to bug out.

OrphanCrow

Dio: Go bags are a relatively New thing

Yes, "go bags" were introduced post 9/11

The WT/org became involved in disaster preparedness as part of a government initiative

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Pregnant JW has "come to Jesus" moment

by Lee Elder in

a pregnant jehovah's witness rethinks watchtower's transfusion policy .

after one simple question from her hematologist.

read her story in this .

OrphanCrow

Dio: ...they were so close to reversing Rutherford's nutty idea at one point...

It wasn't Rutherford's idea to implement a blood transfusion phobia. Da Judge died in January 1942. He was dead when Knorr and Franz came out with the blood transfusion ban in 1945...right on the heels of WW2 ending and right on the heels of great advancements in blood transfusion technology.

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New Store called Best Life Gifts

by Franklin30 in

jw
friends

i noticed a recent post where it was suggested the store was taken over by hostile means!.

the person who posted it pretended to have knowledge of why the store changed names but clearly was operating with an agenda!

one filled with lies, misinformation and deceit!.

OrphanCrow

Update on Ministry Ideaz/BestLifeGifts:

https://westfaironline.com/105235/partners-fighting-over-gift-shop-for-jehovahs-witnesses/

It sounds like there has been some trouble in paradise:

A Jehovah’s Witness who partnered with a couple he trusted based on their shared faith is suing them over ownership of a religion-themed gift shop in Orange County.
Greg Holland of Victoria, British Columbia, claims in a federal lawsuit that Thomas and Nanci Matos of Pine Bush, New York, coerced him into relinquishing his property.
“Through deceit and intimidation, the Matoses stole Holland’s investment and interest in Ministry Ideaz LLC,” the complaint states. “The Matoses then used Ministry Ideaz’s inventory and cash to establish their own competing business.”
The Matoses did not respond to telephone and email messages asking for their side of the story.
Holland started Ministry Ideaz in 2002 as an online business from his home in Ecuador. The company makes and sells leather and paper products – such as Bible covers, notebooks and calendars – for Jehovah’s Witnesses.
Last year, he decided to open a store in the U.S. He met the Matoses through a mutual friend and, “based on his trust of fellow members of the Jehovah’s Witness faith, agreed to partner with them.”
Holland held 90 percent of the New York company, and the Matoses owned the rest.
Holland claims he wired more than $40,000 to the Matoses to set up the store and then another $190,000 to cover expenses for nine months. He shipped $250,000 in inventory from Ecuador that he hoped would sell at retail for $750,000.
In May 2017, they opened a storefront in Valley Supreme Plaza in Pine Bush, 25 miles from the Jehovah’s Witnesses headquarters.
Business was good. The store sold $38,837 in goods in the first month and another $250,000 in credit card transactions over the following four months.
But Holland became estranged from his wife in late 2017, having engaged in an extramarital affair. His wife moved to Canada with their two children.
Holland describes the Matoses as his “surrogate parents.” They offered emotional support during his marital troubles and assured him that he need not worry about the business because it was in their good hands.
At the same time, Holland alleges, the Matoses were trying to persuade his wife to divorce him, seek sole custody of their children and “extract a financial settlement.”
The Matoses, the complaint states, were already “secretly scheming to steal Holland’s entire investment.”
They registered BestLife Gifts LLC in February, using the Ministry Ideaz address.
On March 2, the Matoses held a “special meeting” at their home and decided to dissolve the company. Holland, the majority owner, claims he was not notified.
Thomas Matos emailed him on the same day, stating, “We are severing ties!”
“The store sign has been removed, the lease has ended, utilities, phones and internet cancelled,” the message said.
“There has been far to (sic) much pressure on Nanci and I being in business with you,” the message stated. “Being associated with Ministry Ideaz has become a liability that has already damaged us.”
To this day, according to the July 25 lawsuit, BestLife operates from the same storefront as Ministry Ideaz, uses the same telephone numbers and sells the same inventory.
On March 5, the complaint states, Thomas Matos threatened to reveal Holland’s marital problems to the customers he had cultivated for 16 years and to stop processing about 1,000 online orders.
Matos allegedly offered a deal. He would not follow through on the threats if Holland signed over his entire interest in Ministry Ideaz, agreed to dissolve the company and relinquished the equipment and inventory.
Holland says he signed the one-page agreement, “fearing that the Matoses would ruin his livelihood and his relationship with his family and his church.”
Holland reconciled with his wife, moved to Canada and “began to grasp the extent of the Matoses’ deceit.”
He is demanding $300,000 in damages, and he wants the court to declare the dissolution deal null and void and to bar the Matoses and BestLife from selling inventory and assets.
Holland is represented by Jack A. Gordon, Joshua B. Katz and Luis F. Calvo of Kent, Beatty & Gordon LLP in Manhattan.

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Revised NWT in French released yesterday

by careful in

https://www.jw.org/en/whats-new/revised-nwt-released-french/ .

it looks like it may only be available electronically, that is, no printed version(?)..

is the german next?.

OrphanCrow

sfb: Do you know how much it would cost to supply everyone wanting a new Spanish Bible?

I dunno. Do you know? How much would it really cost?

The translation is done by volunteers, the printing is done by volunteers and the money comes from donations.

How many Spanish Bibbles would it take to supply all Spanish speaking JWs with one? Doesn't that fall under the "World Wide Work"? Doesn't the WT/org collect donations for "spreading the word"? What does the WT/org spend all those donations on?

How much really is a "fortune" for an organization that is worth billions? A few million or so? What is that? A drop in the bucket?

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"We're involved in a life saving work"?

by eyeuse2badub in

as my wife left for fs this morning (aka gossip and coffee time with her friends) she mentioned to me that one of the parts in the clam meeting this week was:.

to remind the 'faithful' that, "we are involved in a life saving work!".

so i just calmly mentioned to her that if he really wanted to, jehoober could save thousands of lives every day just by controlling the weather or providing just clean water or just a just a few loaves and fishes!.

OrphanCrow

Yup

It's all about saving lives

Their own lives

Nothing at all to do with anyone other than themselves

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GDPR Warning for the Org?

by The Fall Guy in

a uk organization has been fined £200,000 for accidentally breaching the data protection of numerous individuals.. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44872880.

how will jw branches/elders fare in the eyes of the law if they deliberately breach someone's privacy?.

uk elders/trustees, it may be time to take out liability insurance for yourselves!.

OrphanCrow

The org will use this as justification for not revealing their pedo/files

Gotta keep those private