I refer you to the post directed specifically to you... and bid you peace!
A slave of Christ,
SJ
apologies for plagurism.
i don't know where i originally got this from so can't give due credit.... how much did jesus know about the bible?
not having a handy edition around, he had to rely on his memory.
I refer you to the post directed specifically to you... and bid you peace!
A slave of Christ,
SJ
i had to take a mental and emotional break for a while so i haven't been around much, but here is what has led to my newest thoughts.. wt 8/1/01 pg.14 par.8.
"8 first, since "oneness" is to be observed, a mature christian must be in unity and full harmony with fellow believers as far as faith and knowledge are concerned.
he does not advocate or insist on personal opinions or harbor private ideas when it cmoes to bible understanding.
Dearest 'looking... may you and everyone else have peace!
I am sorry, but I just have to comment:
WT 8/1/01 pg.14 par.8
"8 First, since "oneness" is to be observed, a mature Christian must be in unity and full harmony with fellow believers as far as faith and knowledge are concerned.
In TRUTH, such one would have to be in unity... with God and Christ... and by such 'union' become one with those and each other, yes? And yet (and this is for you, FredHall, Friday, et al.) due to their 'leaders' who 'shut up the kingdom of the heavens before men', the members of the WT majorily are NOT in such unity and are, therefore, in 'harmony' instead, with 'Belial'... or 'Beli-Jah-el'... the ones WITHOUT JAH as their God.
Proof?
John 17:22
John 15:4-7
John 6:56
2 Corinthians 6:15
Romans 8:9
John 14:23
He does not advocate or insist on personal opinions or harbor private ideas when it cmoes to Bible understanding.
This, dear one, is a blatantly false statement, born of hypocrisy. How so? Well, we COULD ask for a show of hands of folks just on this site who tried to SHARE what they had learned... or be 'given' by the TRUE Light... rather than selfishly keep such 'private'... but were rejected... by the 'scribes and the Pharisees' who themselves 'set law'.
Rather, he has complete confidence in the truth as it is revealed by jehovah God through his Son, Jesus Christ, and "the faithful and discreet slave."
Wow! Did any of you see that? Revealed by 'Jehovah God'... through his Son... AND the FDS. Uhhhh, where was the FDS when John received HIS 'revelation'? I have read and heard of my Father, my Lord... and an angel... but can find NO mention of the WT... OR such 'FDS'. Why? Is the fact that such 'slave' is not even IDENTIFIED until the 'arrival' (parousia)... or RETURN... of my Lord from 'abroad'... BY my Lord? Things that seriously make you go 'hmmm...'
[QUOTE]By regularly takin in the spiritual food provided "at the proper time" - through Christian publications, meetings, assemblies, and conventions - we can be sure that we maintain "oneness" with fellow Christians in faith and knowledge. - Matthew 24:45"[/QUOTE{
And yet, the 'word' of my Father, through my Lord is: "I HAVE GROWN TIRED OF YOUR SOLEMN ASSEMBLIES!" Would that they had 'ears'... to listen and HEAR... what the Spirit has said, yes?
Ah, well, Israel... always 'living up to its name'... 'contender... with God.'
I bid you all peace!
A slave of Christ,
SJ
apologies for plagurism.
i don't know where i originally got this from so can't give due credit.... how much did jesus know about the bible?
not having a handy edition around, he had to rely on his memory.
Careful, 'Pom... your 'fruits' are showing...
My peace remains...
A slave of Christ,
SJ
may you all have peace!.
a dear one posted this on another site.
read and enjoy!.
May you all have peace!
A dear one posted this on another site. Read and enjoy!
Christ, the Anointed of Jah recieved his kingdom after his resurrection.
True, my Father said unto my Lord, "Sit at my right hand, until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet." And again, "Go subduing in the midst of your ememies."
Notice He does NOT say... "Sit at my right hand, until I 'establish you as king.'But notice what my Lord says:
"All authority has been given unto me in heaven and on earth."
How can he have 'all authority in HEAVEN' and not be a king? only the king would have 'all authority' in a kingdom.
Also: "he (Christ), knowing that the Father had given all things into his hands and that he came forth from God and was going to God..."
hmmm... 'all things.' that would include a kingdom, yes?
"He delivered us from the authority of the darkness and transferred us into the kingdom of the Son of his love,"
wow.... he even HAS a kingdom. ;-)
"but we behold the Anointed, who has been made a little lower than the angels, CROWNED with glory and honor for having suffered death."
He is king, right now, and he is ruling... RIGHT NOW, "in the midst of his enemies."
so what is Matthew 19:28 about? “Truly I say to you, In the RE-CREATION, when the Son of man sit down upon his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also yourselves sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel."
When does the son of Man 'sit down' with those who followed him, .. to JUDGE?
Answer: Rev. 20:4-6
May you have peace.... God bless
And I bid you all peace... to time indefinite... as well!
A slave of Christ,
SJ
apologies for plagurism.
i don't know where i originally got this from so can't give due credit.... how much did jesus know about the bible?
not having a handy edition around, he had to rely on his memory.
Well, so be it, then, dear 'Pom... you continue to follow various renderings use them to keep seeking that which is 'right'. I will, however, continue following the Lamb... and keep seeking that which is 'righteous'.
Peace to you.
A slave of Christ,
SJ
dear farkel,.
i just read through your post of a week ago "what is right?".
i am so sorry about the agony you are experiencing regarding your father's suffering.
My dearest DMan... peace to you!
No, dear one, my Father did not write you off... and although you TRIED, He has not permitted you to blaspheme... at least, not yet - (BIG SMILE! My Lord KNOWS, I was a-prayin'!)
He knows the heart, Daddy-O... and He knows the 'source' of your anger. He has tried SO hard to tell you that, as I have tried SO hard to tell you, as well. He knows YOU... BY NAME... and so He knows the true 'spirit' behind your words: pain. He just wants to help you HEAL the pain, but along with that pain is the barrier of your anger, a 'work' of your flesh, a CURTAIN, that stands between you and Christ, who stands between you and Him.
But... He is patient, D. Truly. I love you, and you KNOW this... because HE loves you. It was Him, through my Lord, that sent me to you... to meet you face-to-face... so I could know the person behind the words... and the anger. And the anger is not 'you', D.; the pain is. And people deal with pain differently. You are dealing with it... in anger.
But, no, my Father still knows you... and in SPITE of that (LOL!)... He still loves you... as do I!
You call me if you need me, DMan... K?
I am, as always and to time indefinite,
YOUR servant, friend... and a slave of Christ,
Shelby
P.S. I just read the comment you reiterated below:
the God I believe in would even let you blame him if that helps you through this’. You are going through trauma that I feel we are not made to deal with. Nor is it what God wants for us. Your lack of confidence in God, or even his existence, is understandable and even respectable in view of what you have been through in the past decades as well as what you are going through now. If we lousy humans on this board can sympathize, then I really believe God can too, even more so.
Indeed, DMan, indeed. It is YOUR mind that has convinced you that my Father has cast you off, but in your HEART, you know better. The former is what YOUR Adversary, the Devil, wishes for you to believe. He has taken YOUR anger... at the WTBTS, the 'brothers' (yeah, right), and a few others who I won't mention here... and enticed you to turn it toward God. But you KNOW the Truth, for I have been granted the privilege to tell you about him. It is what your FAITH does for you now that will decide.
The judgmental, seemingly arrogant God of the Hebrew scriptures is not the God I love and trust.
You see Him as 'earthling' man has interpreted Him to you. Dear one, why not 'come' and see him by means of the TRUE Light? John 8:12
Peace to you, Daddy-O!
just wondering if anyone heard about the letter that was sent out to all congregations whose kh have an apartment attached to it.
the edict from bethel was that these apartments were to be vacated a.s.a.p.
the reason: so retiring do's & co's with no place to go could occupy them.
Dearest Kismet... may you have peace!
May I ask you, if what you say is true... then wouldn't the matter not be limited to 'RETIRING' CO's and DO's, and thus include currently 'serving' CO's and DO's, as well as Special Pioneers and Missionaries? Have not ALL of these taken a 'special vow of poverty'?
And are not the Bethelites, farm, Branch, Facilities workers all 'employees' of the organization, who receive 'food and board' in exchange for compensation, and thus, if living in one of these units, subject to having such considered as 'remuneration' with a certain 'value'?
Just asking, and thank you in advance for your clarification.
Your servant and a slave of Christ,
SJ, who also wants to keep things 'accurate'.
apologies for plagurism.
i don't know where i originally got this from so can't give due credit.... how much did jesus know about the bible?
not having a handy edition around, he had to rely on his memory.
Ahh, 'Pom... peace to you!
You know, I LOVE going through this with you, for you only serve to help me understand my Father... and my Lord... to an even greater degree. You have done what many of us, including me, have been taught to do, and that is misunderstand MOTIVE AND INTENT.
I urge you to look at the Hebrew rendering of this 'command'... and discern the INTENT. In truth, the command that we do not deal falsely with... adversely with... or trick or cheat... our brother.
So, let me ask you: your 'pretty' wife says, 'Pom, honey, am I fat?' (Sorry, Mrs. 'Pom, but my Lord is permitting me to make a point...) You, loving her dearly and LIKING how she looks... to YOU... say, "Oh, NO, dear... you're not fat!" But... IS she? Perhaps she is. Did you lie to her? To some you certainly many have. But in truth, 'Pom, what you DIDN'T do, was overstep Leviticus 19:11. Why? Because you stated what you did... OUT OF LOVE... and NOT out of an intent to DECEIVE. There was NO malice... or adversity... in your heart.
But now let's say, your next door neighbor has TICKED you off. And so, you go to HIS wife and say, "Hey, so what was John doin' at that bar with that 'honey' last night while you were working (knowing FULL well John was home working on his car because you SAW him, but you WANT to get him in trouble)? You have know DECEIVED John's wife, LIED on him... maliciously, adversely and out of hatred.
You see, this is one of the WONDERFUL things I love about learning ancient Hebrew from my Lord. He not only explains the TRUE word, but also the TRUE rendering... and intent.
What you... and MANY others... fail to understand, 'Pom... fail to SEE, is the SPIRITUALITY of what is 'written'. You see the 'letter' of the Law... but not the true 'spirit' of it. ANYTHING done in love... is NOT a sin... for there IS NO LAW... against love. Even lying in love. However... EVERYTHING done out of hatred and hypocrisy, even if not condemned by the Law... IS a sin. Thus, the ENTIRE Law Covenant was 'summed up' in that, along with loving God with your whole heart, mind, soul, and strength... you MUST... LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR... AS YOURSELF.
In truth, I will be among the FIRST to 'rejoice', 'dear Pom... when you... and SO many other so-called 'christians'... get this. But you never will, unless you ask for... and receive... the 'eyesalve' of holy spirit from my Lord... that what WAS 'blind'... might gain 'sight'.
Peace to you!
Your servant and a slave of Christ,
SJ
what if you as an unaffiliated christian went to a pastor, elder, or apostle of a church and after his service you went up to him and said, im one of those unaffiliated christians.. what would his reaction be?.
would he look very startled?.
would he even view us as a real christian?.
Hello, Dub-Dub... and may you have peace... still.
You made the following statement, implying that I am a liar and have lied to the folks here. Lumping me in with some others, you said:
they seek out the unwary using Christian sounding terms yet teaching heresy. A little lie soon becomes very big lies in cults like this.
First, I forgive you for your slander, for you speak without knowing.
Now, then... I have reviewed my post for lies... even mistakes and unwary and unintentional falsehoods. Would you be so, please, to point out the 'christian sounding terms' that I have used to teach heresy? And might I add that indeed, I am a 'heretic' insofar as I disagree with the teachings of religion (heresy is pretty much going against the teachings of a religion); however, I have spoken NOTHING against the true 'church' of Christ, and have in fact explained it to those who were not knowing.
Now, I know that YOU 'belong' to a religious organization, WW, and that is entirely your choice and perogative. You follow, then, a 'pastor' or 'reverend' or 'elder' or 'bishop' or 'brother' or 'pope' or... what have you. I, though, follow One... the Lamb of God. He is my ONLY 'leader'. I do not have to go into a certain building with certain steeples and crosses and altars and names displayed in order to worship my God; all I need is to approach him THROUGH CHRIST. And my Lord comes to ME... whenever I call... or whenever he deems it appropriate, AS WELL AS when I am in the midst of my brothers, including only ONE of such.
I do not know which 'god' you worship, WW, but it seems to ME that if I have to travel to a 'temple' of some sort to DO it, I might as well have stayed under the Law Covenant, which REQUIRED such traveling. No, I think I like it MUCH better... that my Father... and my Lord... have come to ME... and made their 'abode'... in me. That way, I am NEVER without them; the 'union' remains intact, as long as I... 'remain in union' with them.
Why not accept the invitation held out to ALL, Dub-Dub, to:
"COME! Take 'life's water' free!"?
THAT way... you can truly BE... free.
John 8:32, 36
My peace remains, and I remain,
A slave of Christ,
SJ
what if you as an unaffiliated christian went to a pastor, elder, or apostle of a church and after his service you went up to him and said, im one of those unaffiliated christians.. what would his reaction be?.
would he look very startled?.
would he even view us as a real christian?.
Hello, dearest DW... and may you have peace!
There is only ONE true 'church', DW, and you 'affiliate' with it by BECOMING it... and being joined TO it... rather that joining it. It has one chief cornerstone, a foundation made up of twelve, and stones and pillars made up of at least 144,000 from among the sons of Jacob (Israel) and an amount from 'every nation, tribe, tongue and people', which NO man is able to number. It has one 'leader'... the Son of God... and one 'hope'... life everlasting in the city 'having real foundations', New Jerusalem, a 'heavenly' or SPIRITUAL city, that eventually spreads it boundaries over the entire earth... an within the walls of which 'righteousness is to dwell'.
You will not find it in a building; for you must BECOME the building.
Ephesians 2:19-21
You will not find it in an organzation or insitution; for you will find it... in YOU... and others like you. Thus, before you can worship in IT... it must 'dwell' in you.
Romans 8:9
John 14:23
It's name? The Body of Christ that forms the "Congregation... of the Firstborn". It has no 'denomination'... for it is not CALLED 'christian', but is made UP of christians, those called... and CHOSEN by God, through an anointing with holy spirit, which is what the word 'christian' means: 'chosen person'.
What of association? It is as the 'leader' of this 'church' himself said, 'Where two or more are gather together... IN MY NAME... there I am also.' And what is the NAME of that One? It is JAH-ESHUA (Jah Saves) MISCHA-JAH (Chosen/Anointed of JAH)... which you have heard translated from Greek to English as "Jesus Christ". "Jesus" in, in Greek is Ieosus, but in Hebrew, is JahEshua (pronoused "Yahshua" or Joshua"), and "Christ" is in Greek "Kristos", but in Hebrew "Mischa-Jah" (pronounced "Mee-sha-ya", and in English "Messiah").
And where can this One be found? He can't be. But... if you will continue to seek his kingdom... HE... will find you. If you continue to ASK... HE... will answer you. And if you continue to KNOCK... HE... will lead you to... and OPEN to you... his kingdom.
John 6:44
John 10:1-6, 27
John 15:16
As for 'religion', however, take a warning: they are 'false lights' set up by the one that transforms himself into an 'angel of light', to mislead, if possible, even the chosen ones, the TRUE sons of light, away from the TRUE Light... that bring light into the world.
John 1:9
John 8:12
John 3:19
Thus, if indeed you 'wish' it... if you want to walk by that Light and receive HIS light, that YOUR light might 'shine before men'... then, may the undeserved kindness and mercy of my God and Father, the Holy One of Israel, JAH OF ARMIES, and the peace of His Christ, my Lord, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH, come to be upon you... you and your entire household... until time indefinite.
Your servant and a slave of Christ,
SJ