i was just wondering: never in my life have i owned (or even read) a bible other than the nwt.
i really wish to study the bible but really do not wish to use this version.
after seeing the plethora of bibles out there i was wondering if there is any person here who can give me an un-biased opinion on which bible to get.
Hello, dearest 'Kat'... and may you have peace!
While indeed, the REFERNCE NWT is probably the most comprehensible 'Bible' you will find (sorry, folks, but it is true, based on the contents of the 'footnotes'), in TRUTH, there is actually something MUCH better than a 'Bible' of ANY translation or version:
John 5:39, 40
May you read the Bible verse, as quoted above... and 'get the sense' of it.
A slave of Christ,
SJ
i may be asking a question that's already been addressed on another thread.
if so, kindly redirect me.
i read this post on another thread, which made me ask a question.
Hello, dearest BGoat... may you have peace... and may I respond? Thank you!
The "Bible" is not the 'inspired word of God'. The "Bible" in fact is not all 'inspired', nor it is all 'scripture'. "Scripture" is what God, through Christ, TOLD folks to write, and thus is "Moses, the Psalms, the Prophets and the Revelation". A good example of what is NOT 'scripture', because it was NOT 'inspired'... are the writings of Luke: the gospel of Luke and the Acts of the Apostles. These were written NOT at the behest of God, but at the behest of Theophilus, a non-christian Roman ruler who wanted to know if what he had heard about the christians was true.
So, what IS the Word of God? The 'Bible' itself tells you:
John 1:1
John 1:14
Revelations 19:13
It is for this very reason... that the 'Bible' and 'scriptures' are NOT the Word of God, that my Lord is recorded to have said:
"You are searching the scriptures, because you THINK
that by means of them you will have everlasting life.
And these are the very ones that bear witness about ME...
and yet, you do not want to COME... to ME... that you
may have life."
I hope this helps out, BGoat... that you have 'ears to hear' and get the SENSE of it. And again I bid you peace.
A slave of Christ,
SJ
have you wondered why god allowed the watchtower organisation to start in the first place?.
is it really god's organisation, that's just got corrupted?.
was it ever god's organisation?.
Dearest Ozzie... may you have peace!
May I respond? Thank you.
While my Father did not 'create' the WTBTS; it is a 'false light' set up by Satan to attract the sons of lights and 'kill' them... spiritually. Thus, the WTBTS is in fact part and parcel of the 'hired man' of John Chapter 10. How so?
While babes, all sons are granted to a 'pedagogue', a 'governor' of sorts... to raise and teach them until such time as they are returned to their parents. From 'wet nurses' to 'tutors', this was the case for THOUSANDS of years. As the sons of light, there were 'elementary' things that we had to know, such as 'what IS sin' and HOW can I love God with my whole heart, soul, mind and strength, and my neighbor 'as myself'? And so that we could know 'transgression' so as not to WILLFULLY transgress.
And so, as babes, we were placed 'under men in charge'. Such men, 'hired men' and thus, shepherds were supposed to LOVINGLY for us, if they were indeed 'hired' by whom they SAY they were... God. Instead, have for generations PROVEN who they are... and who they work for... by their 'fruits'. Since Cain, they have turned on us, began to 'beat' us, and on seeing the 'wolf' enter the field... abandoned us.
Why? Because we are not their 'sheep'. We are the sheep of another, and were misled into 'dangerous pastures'... the 'valley of death's shadow'... by such 'hired men'... as food for THEIR 'master'... the one THEY work for.
Thankfully, for SOME of us, our master has called us. We have heard his 'voice' and separated ourselves and quit touching the unclean thing... and now follow the Lamb wherever HE goes... because we know his voice. Those left behind because they did not... or cannot 'hear' that voice... due to a lack of LOVE... and a lack of FAITH... will be snatched and scattered... and some even 'devoured' by that wolf, that 'wild beast'. Too bad, too bad.
But that is the very purpose of the WTBTS, another effort by Satan, the one who 'keeps transforming himself into an angel of light' to 'flush out' the 'remaining ones of her seed', the seed of the woman and 'wage war' with them. Why do you think it is the ONLY organization in the entire world... that separates its members into two classes... such that one eats and drinks and IDENTIFIES ITSELF as the 'seed of the woman'... and one does not? Because that is the very purpose for which Satan set it up: to identify the 'seed'... and crush it.
My Father has ALLOWED it, though, as He allows ALL 'tests' for us. He does not bring ON such tests, no more than He did when the Adversary tested Job and my Lord. But as in both of those cases... He permits it. It is up to US, however... to show what we are 'made of'... gold refined by fire... and on what we have built our houses: the rock-mass (that is the Christ, and so withstands ANY storm). Or whether we are worthless stones, built on sand, which is washed away... or blown away... at the slightest 'gale'.
I hope this helps... and I bid you peace.
A slave of Christ,
SJ
i have a question?.
if anyone or any organization claims to be god's exclusive channel, what would be concidered proper proof?.
i think something like making a prediction that seem very unlikely to come true and it comming true would be one thing.
Dearest Winston... may you have peace!
In TRUTH... there have been several 'channels' for God, but in TRUTH only one TRUE 'channel'. The priests and prophets were all 'channels', but received THEIR information from the TRUE 'channel'... my Lord, the Son of God, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH.
That One... proved it... and some recorded it for those of us who need to 'see it in writing'. For those of us that don't, he shows us himself.
I bid you peace,
A slave of Christ,
SJ
i saw this letter in the dumpster behind the local kingdom hall.
any idea what it may mean?.
dear brothers,.
That was REALLY cute, Chuck. Thanks for the laugh... and peace to you!
A slave of Christ,
SJ
as a jw i was taught god created adam to live forever, but the genesis account seems to say otherwise:.
well first theres this weird problem, the bible says god created man and woman on the same day, the sixth day.
genesis 1:.
Hello, again, BBoy... and peace to you again!
No, my Father did not create Adam and Eve TO live forever... but with the CAPABILITY of living forever if that was His will... and THEIR will... which would have been demonstrated by their adherence to His will. Indeed, He had told them what it would take to do so: Don't eat of a certain tree.
Had they been CREATED then, to live forever... they most certainly WOULD have lived... forever... for nothing could have undone that. Indeed, out of the heart's abundance the mouth speaks, so IF my Father's HEART, and by correlation His MOUTH had said, "This ad-ham (earthling man) has been created to live FOREVER...", His 'will' would have been done. His word that preceded forth from His mouth would NOT have returned to Him... without results. Just as he spoke it, it would have been.
However, while it was His will that they not DIE... it was THEIR will... to 'taste death'. And so, He rescinded HIS will... and gave them theirs.
I hope this helps, and again, I bid you peace...
A slave of Christ,
SJ
hey anyone else come across this passage in genesis and wondered what the heck happened??.
new american standard bible (nasb).
footnotes are in paranthesis and bold.
Hello, dearest BBoy... and may you have peace!
Just a couple of FYI's, if you will permit me:
1. "El" is not a name; it is the Hebrew word for "God" (i.e., Beth-El = House of God; Israel = Contender with God; Joel, pronounced Yah-el = JAH is God, etc.) In the event my Father's name has actually been used in these instances, it would have been Beth-JAH, Isra-JAH, JAH-El, etc. God... and JAH... are one and the same, as long as the individual(s) referencing the matter believe it so. "God" COULD be, however, to some, Buddha, Zeus, etc. When the word is "El", however, that is in direct relation to the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, MY God, my Father... and the Father of my Lord and my brothers.. JAH... OF ARMIES.
2. The nation of Israel is CALLED 'Israel', after the man Jacob, whose name was CHANGED to "Isra-El" after he wrestled with JAH's angel. Jacob would not LET the angel go until he had been blessed; since the angel was sent by JAH, Jacob was, in essence wrestling with JAH... and it was of JAH that he demanded a blessing. He received the blessing... his 'seed', rather than his brother Esau's (which would have sufficed, too), became the 'nation' blessed by God/JAH due to his promise to Abraham.
3. The reason that it was Jacob's thigh and hip that were affected is because that is the 'pivot' point of a man's physical strength. Yes, upper body strength is good and great, but a man with weak legs... or even perhaps lame... was considered 'afflicted' by God. A man without the use of his arms could fend fairly well for himself; he was at least 'mobile'; however, a man lame in legs was dependent... and unfortunately considered a burden. Jacob, while he indeed received a blessing... also received an affliction, a REMINDER of his weak flesh, although he had presumed to content with God... as his new name and hip/thigh... suggested. He was not inflicted entirely, nor did he need to become dependent, but he was constantly reminded of what my Father COULD have done to him, for his presumptuousness, had He so desired. Jacob was spared... because what he asked for... indeed demanded... is what we should ALL desire: to be blessed by God.
4. In your 'Sumerian' account of creation, where Ra is 'the Sun', in TRUTH, this 'fable' was taken from the truth of my Father being the LIGHT. Since in the physical world the only true 'source' of light is the sun, the account was... bastardized to include the physical features of creation (sun, wind, rain, etc.) due to the decrease and LACK of 'spirituality' among mankind at the time. They KNEW there were 'godlike' beings... but they could no longer explain them SPIRITUALLY... because by now, such beings could only be SEEN spiritually. Since the people had left off 'seeing' that which is spiritual, they combined the spiritual... which they had heard from previous generations... with the physical... which they could see with their own eyes and experience with the other 'senses' of the flesh (sight, touch, taste, smell and sound - that which makes things 'real'... to the physical flesh).
Initially, there was no division between flesh from the dust... and flesh from the spirit realm. Adam and Eve, however, when ejected from Eden, were among the last to see it of their time. Both Cain and Abel could SEE it, but could not enter into it. And over time, as man became MORE physical... and less spiritual... their ability to see it, faded away altogether. However, before this, while Abel continued to have the FAITH born of love, to see it, up until his very death, his brother Cain lacked the LOVE to have the FAITH to see it. This is what caused the division between the two: Abel had faith and love, and so could 'see' and 'hear' what was acceptable to my Father... and do it. Cain, though, because of his LACK of LOVE, could not possess the faith to see it. He could, though, still HEAR.
And unfortunately, MOST of what Cain heard... was discipline... which he 'belittled'. Abel heard praise and acceptance, because his sacrifices WERE acceptable, because WELCOMED discipline... listened and obeyed. Cain... mostly heard were he needed to improve, rather than where he was being pleasing, and so failed to value the discipline, and thus failed to LISTEN to the discipline and ultimately to OBEY it. After awhile, rather than be angry at JAH who GAVE such discipline, Cain grew angry at Abel. And although JAH saw this and tried to WARN Cain... and discipline him... Cain again, failed to obey... which resulted in his sin... killing his brother.
All 'fables' and 'myths' have SOME modicum of resemblance and similarity, because they all 'originated' from the same point, the truth. But, as I said, it is earthling man's inability to any longer 'see' and 'hear' spiritually that has resulted in the truth being bastardized, distorted, misstated, misrendered and misinterpreted. But it does NOT have to be that way. There IS a TRUTH... a 'real' one... and he is 'real' in that he is spiritual and 'lives forever and ever', for he is of the realm that exists 'forever and ever'... rather this physical one, the features of which come and go.
His name is JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH (JAH saves; chosen/anointed of JAH), and he is the Son of the TRUE God, the Holy One of Israel, JAH OF ARMIES... and my Lord. It is he that said, "I am the Way... and the Truth... and the Life." And it is he that also said:
"You are searching the scriptures, because you THINK
that by means of THEM you will have everlasting life.
And these are the very ones that bear witnness about
ME... and yet, you do not want to come to ME... that
you may have life."
So, I promise you, BBoy... you can read all the books you want on any subject you wish, written by anyone who has ever lived on this earth. And yet, you will not find the knowledge of God. For such knowledge exists IN only One... and is only granted to us... THROUGH that One. I promise you. Thus, it is true that 'to the making of many books there is no end and much devotion to them 'is wearisome to the flesh'. Indeed, with all of the writing and literature that has been penned... which as the Truth? I say to you, BBoy... including the "Bible"... none of them. For neither my Lord... what he is, what he did nor what he will yet do... can be bound and contain in volumes of paper and ink... no matter HOW long one writes, even to eternity.
Does that mean stop reading? By no means... there is information to be had. However, it is not the knowledge of God... the KNOWING of God... and being KNOWN by Him. I read; I LOVE to read. But not to 'find' God or be found BY Him. For that, I go to the 'source'... God Himself, by going to the One whom He 'appointed'... His Son... my Lord, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH. For no matter HOW many books are written, how many 'towers' are built, how many 'roads' are travelled, and how long one searches... NO ONE can come to the Father... except THROUGH that One.
I hope this helps and I again bid you peace.
A slave of Christ,
SJ
okay, the men of sodom won't be resurrected, but what about the women and children who were destroyed at that time?
were they found guilty because of the men?.
will pharaoh be resurrected.
Amen... and amen, my dear little brother, kes (peace to you!)
Indeed, is our Lord not recorded to have said:
"There will be a resurrection of the righteous...
AND THE UNRIGHTEOUS..."
as well as...
"ALL those in the memorial tombs will hear his
voice... and come OUT... those who did GOOD things
to a resurrection of life; those who did VILE
things, to a resurrection... of judgment."
This will include EVERYONE who didn't take part in the 'first' resurrection... including Adam... Eve... Judas... and the people of Sodom and Gomorrah. All these died 'in the flesh'... but have yet to be 'destroyed in the spirit'. Their spirits exist STILL... although imprisoned per se, in the world of the dead. Thus, my Lord is recorded to have said:
"Do not be in fear of him that can kill the body,
but fear Him that can destroy the body... AND THE
SOUL (spirit)... in Gehenna."
Thus, when the the Prophet said, "The SOUL that is sinning, it itself will die," he was NOT speaking of the FLESH that sinned. The flesh will die, regardless. It is the SOUL... the 'preserving alive of the SOUL'... that is at issue. Satan knew this and while he led Adam and Eve into selling OUR flesh to 'sin and death'... he led THEM... to sell even their souls into it.
Anyway, peace to you all... and may JAH bless!
Your servant and a slave of Christ,
SJ
did any one else enjoy the info in the questions from readers.
sept 15 wt (not).
see if you can pick out the contradiction in terms.. cheers jem
SIGH! (Yeah, I'm 'sighing and groaning' over this 'detestable' thing...)
it is essential that our spirit, or mental disposition, be attuned to his through study and application of his Word.
You cannot 'study' and 'apply'... God's Word. He is NOT a 'law written on stone tablets...' nor on paper with 'delible ink'...
John 1:1
John 1:14
Revelation 19:13
Nor does worshiping God with SPIRIT... have anything to do with our 'mental disposition'. For... the spirit... has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MIND. It is in the HEART that the spirit 'resides'... and thus the heart that the spirit 'controls'... which then convinces... the mind.
In TRUTH, no matter what your mind 'says'... it is your heart that you will follow. Yes, I know that sometime it seems as if we follow the mind... but in TRUTH... the mind... if strong enough... will also convince... the heart. And ultimately, it is the latter... that we 'follow'.
Thus, it is 'written' that it is the HEART... that is treacherous... and desperate... and NOT the mind. For it is not the MIND that my Father and Lord are 'examining'... but the HEART... the 'seat of motivation'. Dear ones, it is with our HEARTS... that we 'make our minds over'.
Now, please... everybody stand back... 'cuz I am seriously about to HURL! Can anyone spell "L-Y-I-N-G-R-H-E-T-O-R-I-C-A-L-P-R-O-P-A-G-A-N-D-A"?
Nevermind... I just did.
Peace.
SJ, a slave of Christ, who is made 'sick' by the poisoned 'water'... wormwood... of the 'wild beast' and the 'false prophet'.
hey ya'll ... ain't tuesdays, thursdays and sundays even better nowadays ?.
i was wondering what it is that you hated most about the meets ?.
the one thing that used to really rile me was the pressure to control the children - the frowns and the disapproving looks when they were just behaving like normal kids .... the worst of it all for me was seeing any little person being taken outside and hearing the loud slaps even when the door was closed .... what is it that you least miss ?
Hmmmmmm... let's see... (peace to you all!)...
You know (no pun intended), I actually LIKED going to meetings for some time, because I THOUGHT I was getting 'information' (I love information)... but I realize that when I stopped liking it, it was because of the:
1. Abandonment of "widows and orphans... in their 'tribulation'"
2. No concern for the 'fatherless' boy/girl
3. Condescending attitude towards others, especially 'the world'
4. Lack of love
5. Prohibition from 'eating and drinking'
6. "Lording it over" by some of others
7. Self-assumingness
8. Haughtiness
9. Gossip
10. Slander
11. Speculation
12. Hypocrisy
13. Lies
14. Deception
15. Misleadings
16. Misrenderings
17. Misinterpretations
in that order... and the fact that EVERYONE, in and OUT of the 'borg... except those who were considered 'spiritual'.. based on their ADORATION of the 'borg (so, I guess the 'right' word is those who were 'acceptable')... was suspect... and on many occasions, considered just plain old 'unworthy'.
All of that stuff just got on my @#&!^ nerves! (Sorry, but it did... and does).
Again, I bid you peace.
A slave of Christ,
SJ
