My Parents are still in, but I still stay in contact with them. They always offer me the mags, but that is as far as they go concerning the borg and me. Most of my Aunts,uncle , and cousins are in it on my mother's side of the family.My father's side , only a few. My siblings are out with me.
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How Many Here Have Any Ties To JW Relatives or Friends?
by minimus inare you completely jw free?
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"As JWs, we don't believe in Law Enforcement"-- gag me.
by Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit ina jw mother recently received a background check phone call concerning her son's interest in pursuing a career in law enforcement in another state.
she says nice enough things about her (ex-jw) son, but states that she doesn't talk to him much because he left the family religion, and then has the nerts to say that while she supports him to an extent, she disapproves of his career choice because, "as duhhhhoho's witlesses, we don't believe in law enforcement.
" what a shame to admit this.. i say, don't call 9-1-1 you stupid piece o' hell.
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I remember some years back when I was contemplating on returning to the Borg, I was told by an elder that I shouldn't expect to hold any congregational positions due to my being in Law enforcement. I believe it was because of my on-duty weapon carry status.
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Watchtower Library - 1975 cover-up?
by B_Deserter inmost of us have read that 1968 awake article that clearly states their belief that 1975 was going to be the end of the "system of things.
" i decided to check out the watchtower library just to see if this article appeared.
it didn't, but i noticed something very strange.
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Check out the May 1974 KM, about selling of homes and participating in the full time ministry as the end nears. I believe you'll find that in the CD rom.
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I saw it today and really enjoyed it. The camera moving back and forth got me a little dizzy, but all in all , a very good movie.
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Deceiving new Bible studies. The stunning craftiness of WTBT again.
by hamsterbait inhas anybody still got copies of the old "truth" book, the "live forever " book, and "bible teach" book?.
i threw them out, and regret it now because a sudden chilling realization came to me posting on another thread:.
do you remember how in the 70s we were told to encourage the new study to compare what the nwt says with what is in his own bible?
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nomoreguilt:Back in the 70's we had an elder in our congregation that began to compare the NWT to another bible. He and his wife would sit during the meetings and use this bible," In Living English", I believe it was. I believe that was the "The Bible in Living English" by Steven Byington. The WTB&TS first published it for the members in 1972.
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A claim to Beth Sarim
by Gary1914 inmy great grandmother, who has been in the truth forever, just told us a funny story and i thought i would share it with all of you.. we were discussing judge rutherford and she said that she was living in california at the same time as rutherford was living in beth sarim.
the papers at that time ran an article about rutherford and that beth sarim had been purchased especially for moses, abraham and other old faithful servants.. well, one day a hobo came to the door and claimed that he was abraham and that he came to take possession of his home.
i don't know what rutherford was expecting but instead of welcoming this "prince" to his new home he called the authorities to take him away.
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Found this interesting :The interview with J.F. Rutherford that appeared in the San Diego Sun, March 15, 1930 "But how will you identify King David or any of the other representatives from God?' Rutherford was asked. 'I thought all that out before I wrote the deed,' the judge replied with a twinkle in his gray eyes. 'I realized the possibility of some old codger turning up bright and early some morning and declaring he was David. The men whom I have designated to test the identity of these men are officers of my societies and have consecrated themselves to the Lord, they will be divinely authorized to know impostors from the real princes.'" Time Magazine of Mar 31, 1930 wrote: "Judge Joseph Frederick Rutherford 60, lives in a ten room Spanish mansion, No 4440 Braeburn Rd, San Diego, Calif. Last week he deeded No 4440 Braeburn Road, and adjacent two car garage and a pair of automobiles to King David, Gideon, Barak, Samson, Jephthae, Samuel and sundry other mighties of ancient Palestine. Positive is he that they are shortly to reappear on earth, Said he: 'I have purposely landscaped the place with palm and olive trees so that these princes of the universe will feel at home ..". The San Diego Sun of Jan 9 1931 wrote: "A gaunt unshaven tramp has been the lone claimant for the $75,000 Southern Californian mansion of David, king of Israel, since it was deeded to the Biblical character a year ago. This was revealed today by Judge James Rutherford, temporary owner of the luxuriantly furnished Spanish type mansion at 440 Braeburn Rd in the exclusive Kensington Heights district. In one of the oddest deeds ever recorded, Rutherford, president of the International Bible Students Association and the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society, has placed in trust the magnificent estate for ancient kings and prophets of Israel. The slayer of Goliath and his companions may occupy the 10 room modern home with it's landscaped gardens and patio as soon as their credentials are approved by Rutherford and officials of his societies, divinely authorised to recognise them. One morning as I was going from the house to the garage, a queer looking creature approached me, tipped his dirty hat and cried 'Howdy Judge, I'm David' 'Go and tell that to the winds', I told him and he left without arguing the matter. I could see at a glance that he was not David. He didn't look like I knew David would look.' Asked how he expected David and his distinguished brethren to look, Rutherford, without hesitation, opened his huge Bible and pointed to a verse which said that the Princes of the Universe would be risen from the dead 'as perfect men'. 'I interpret that to mean', the tall dignified Judge declared, 'that David, Gideon, Barak, Samson, Jepthae, Joseph and Samuel will be sent here to wrench the world from Satan's grasp, clothed in modern garb as we are, and able, with little effort, to speak our tongue.' Rutherford pictured the arrival of the biblical delegation perhaps in frock coats, high hats, canes and spats. At Beth Sarim (House of Princes) as Rutherford has named his mansion, David will find the most modern appliances that science has devised. When the distinguished guests walk up the circular stairway to the second floor, they will find a large office with red leather chairs and shiny flat topped desk with inverted lighting. Even French telephones await the touch of the princes. Opening a wide door, the native sons of Palestine will behold a large bathroom, resplendent in shiny black tile with needle shower and an amply filled medicine chest. What a thrill giant shouldered Samson, who wrecked a palace with his bare fists might find in the gold safety razor and strop! Rutherford built the second floor bedroom, which he temporarily occupies, large in order to accommodate several of the expected owners. With wide pane windows that look out on the purple Cuyamacas to the East and California's first mission to the north, the bedroom is almost severe in it's furnishings. The rulers of the universe will have simple tastes, the judge apparently believes, although the austere end tables sported gaily covered fiction magazines. Rutherford has imported some Koniach, Wasser from Cologne, Germany to freshen the princely faces after shaving. A black skull cap hangs over one of the bedposts. The coming of David and his companions will be the greatest news story of the ages, Rutherford predicted. 'I am not a publicity seeker,' Rutherford said with a twinkle in his kindly brown eyes, 'but I feel that the world should know about their arrival. It will be a great news story.' Word of his 'House of king David' has reached into every corner of the world, the judge stated. 'Everywhere I went people asked me about this place,' Rutherford said. 'In Chicago a millionaire manufacturer offered to build another house for David, but I declined the offer. 'Literally thousands have driven here to see this place,' Rutherford continued. 'Many have come to the door and my secretary has shown them about the place.' The patio with it's silver pool and olive and palm trees is gay with flowers. Down toward the canyon, paths have been landscaped to allow David and his friends to walk in meditation. Many of the fruits and trees, native to their Palestine, will greet the rulers when they arrive. In the two car garage next door stands a new, yellow 16 cylinder coupe which will be turned over to the rulers along with all the personal property on the place. 'Everything will be theirs, the house, the land, the furnishings and even the clothes if they need them,' Judge Rutherford said. 'What will I do? Oh, don't worry about me. I'll manage somehow.' the judge smiled. He had another 'Watch Tower' residence on Staten Island and practically an entire floor at Bethel. The seven famous men will not have long to rest at their San Diego estate because they soon will lead the forces of the Lord to vanquish the minions of Satan at the battle of Armageddon, Rutherford believed. 'But they will win out. The Lord will punish the devil and will show that the preachers and the politicians have been giving the people false counsel,' Rutherford said confidently. Rutherford will sail May 9 for Europe where he will speak before conventions in Berlin, Paris and London." Inv.74
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Please help me find a quote from the W/T
by windsong ini found a quote from the w/t in regards to the kjv of the bible being the best version and then closed the page by accident and now cannot find it.
can any one give me the quote and the reference as well for this.
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I found something in the WT 1943 pg.94 stating the Authorized Version(KJV) and another version were the "best of all translations". I don't know how to download the copy I scanned to this sight.
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Please help me find a quote from the W/T
by windsong ini found a quote from the w/t in regards to the kjv of the bible being the best version and then closed the page by accident and now cannot find it.
can any one give me the quote and the reference as well for this.
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Windsong what book were you reading at the time you lost the page with the WT quote?
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International Bible Student's 1910 Convention Report on Ebay
by Invetigator74 ini noticed on ebay a 1910 assembly report is on auction.
why is there a great demand on auctions for these old wt.publication?
the pictures are quite interesting in that listing, but wouldn't they contain old light information?
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I noticed on Ebay a 1910 Assembly Report is on auction. Why is there a great demand on auctions for these old WT.publication? The pictures are quite interesting in that listing, but wouldn't they contain old light information? Just wondering .............
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