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  Unusual Events at Assemblies

  by Gretchen956 in

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  i don't know why, but the posting about the apostates outside the tacoma dome made me think of an assembly i went to in portland oregon in the 70s.

  (ok so i'm dating myself)... anyway right in the middle of a talk (i think it was the sunday main talk) we had a streaker run through.

  i never laughed so hard in all my life!!!

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  Enishi

  He he, it's always funny when the animals get into the assembly isn't it? I feel sorry for the poor creatures, those horrible talks probably drive them crazy but unlike us, they don't have the mental fortitude necessary to endure them.

  At one assembly I was at, someone down in the lower blenchers started screaming their head off. I looked down with my binoculars, and saw roughly six men carrying off an angry woman who was waving her arms about everwhere. Later on I heard that she was an apostate, and had went off on an angry tantrum.
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  The absolute stupidity of Christianity

  by logansrun in

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  so often people here confuse just what the real evil is.

  we think it is the theology and practices of the watchtower.

  neigh!

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  Enishi

  Christianity is not entirely invalid. Originally, Christianity contained much of the Greek and Pagan wisdom that it later stamped out. What happened was quite predictable. You see, like all things in human society, Christianity eventually degraded, in the same way that our bodies decay, and in the same way our earth will eventually decay. One could even say the same thing of Hinduism with its caste system. Just that, in this case, the religion Christianity degraded in the most collosal way imaginable. If it ever hopes to stay alive in the ever changing stream of evolution, it will have to change.
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  this website is having an impact

  by dothemath in

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  hello.........this is a first for me- i've been reading some of your messages for some time now, and i must say you guys study your watchtower far better than i ever did.

  i'm still a part of the congregation (and an elder), but i have to say i agree with many of your criticisms of the organization.

  we've become just like the pharisees that jesus condemned............at our last assembly, the do and co warned against apostate material over and over again..........so i certainly think you're having a tremendous impact on their actions.

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  Enishi

  Welcome! We're glad to have you here, the organization needs more people like you who are open-minded and willing to face the problems facing the witnesses.
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  Adam & Eve , just plain DUMB?

  by coolshark in

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  if they were perfect, why did they "eat" of the tree of good and bad and why not from the tree of life?

  could it be that satan was jealous of eve when she was with adam?

  i mean, before eve came onto the scene , surely satan spent some"quality" time with adam showing him the ropes, etc.

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  Enishi

  The fact Adam & Eve come off as total morons is because the original story was never meant to be taken literally, unlike now.
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  unbuttoning the watchman

  by czarofmischief in

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  in my current campaign against "e-watchman" i am going to copy tactics i learned from my favorite watchtower studies - posted weekly by blondie.

  my urge to do this is caused by what i view as a real danger to those who are escaping the intense mind control of the borg.

  e-watchman uses guilt and condemnatory statements in a big way, which could strike those who are feeling guilty about leaving the watchtower anyway.

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  Enishi

  Good job Czar, take him down!
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  Question about Satan being thrown down to earth

  by gold_morning in

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  i read something and thought some of you might know.

  remember revelation 12:7. there was war in heaven and micheal and his angels battled the dragon and his angels.

  then satan was thrown down to earth and was like a roaring lion.. didn't the jw's say that this happened in 1914?

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  Enishi

  A fundamentalist once told me that the gigantic meteor which killed off the dinosaurs was in fact Satan and the demons being thrown out of heaven.
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  wt quotes to laugh at

  by zev in

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  i posted this on the aol boards....maybe you'll get a chuckle from these.... .

  please do not be drinking or eating at your computer while reading these.. .

  splatter against the screen is a pain to clean up.. .

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  Enishi

  Some of these really made my jaw drop!

  *** w52 2/1 95 Questions from Readers ***
  Really, our colored brothers have great cause for rejoicing. Their race is meek and teachable, and from it comes a high percentage of the theocratic increase.

  Sheesh, and I thought the WTS ramblings NOW were bad, how could anyone back then have swallowed this nonsense?!
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  Awake ! Jan 8, 2004 cover "Understanding Mood Disorder" WTS change ?

  by jwsons in

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  i remeber about 20 years ago wts still go against psychiatrist and in this awake !

  mentions some jws did go to psychatrist.

  huh !?.

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  Enishi

  I'm not sure about other congregations, but in mine, going to see a psychiatirst is accepted. Not surprising, considering how many of the witnesses seem to be dealing with deep depression...
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  What do you belive happens to us after we die?

  by Singing Man in

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  i was raised a jehovah's witness and like most are aware, they presently belive that by and large everyone who dies ceases to exist.

  i accepted this fate for most of my life and i guess i still do for the most part, but now that i do not go to the meetings what am i to accept death to be, as i will die as well as my friends and family at some point.

  i think that idea of being in gods memory made sense to me as i have excepted it for forty five of my fifty years of being alive.

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  After our physical body dies, our soul will gradually ascend through the different levels of heaven, passing purgatory on through lower realms of the desire plane up to a higher level where we will live in happiness for as long as we wish. After that, our desire body will die, and our soul will pass on to higher levels of abstract thought, where the fruits of the past life will be added to the core of our being, which is an inseparable part of God, and then will descend again to start a new life.

  However, the personality that we had in this lifetime will not live on, though it will have a great effect on our next lifetime. So in this sense, you and the name you go by at this point will die, so there is still the reality of loss that must be accepted.

  I've always had a deep feeling that death is not the end. Matter and energy cannot be destroyed, only changed into a different form, why not consciousness? Still, I don't know for sure. Just believing is not enough, I need a personal experience that confirmes my convictions.
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  Jehovah, regent of the Moon

  by Enishi in

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  2. bible

  i found this interesting little tidbit from on an online e-book on christian occultism.

  whoo boy, imagine if the dubs could see this.

  http://www.rosicrucian.com/rcc/rcceng14.htm#part9

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  Enishi

  I agree that some of the stuff in this book is rather silly, but keep in mind it was written back around the turn of the century or so. What I found interesting was the fact that Jehovah is actually a lesser god.