EOM, respectfully, arguing with VIV is historically a bad move. Only one person ever won an argument with viv, some legend named Morpheus. You are no Morpheus.
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One of the biggest complete 180 contradictions in the SAME ARTICLE, in the 9/15 study wt "Is your conscience a reliable guide?".
by EndofMysteries inif you actually turn your brain on and process what is being said, this article keeps contradicting itself.
"jehovah god created humans with free will, that is, the liberty to choose between one option and another.neither a branch office nor the local congregation elders are authorized to make health-care decisions for a witness.
a christian needs to remember the biblical command to keep abstaining from .
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Talking with a young elder
by biblexaminer ini had a discussion with an elder recently.
it was interesting in a macabre sense.
we were outside the kingdom hall on a nice sunny day recently.
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and you and I totally agree on that ob, no question. Unfortunately I still have some inside that I care about and such a line of reasoning may prompt them to think just enough to see the obviousness of the truth...
The truth..?
That you are a slave.. Like everyone else in the organization, you were born into bondage. Into a prison that you cannot taste or see or touch. A prison for your mind.....
It only takes one chink in the armor. I like to have little things like that to take a chink out if possible
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Talking with a young elder
by biblexaminer ini had a discussion with an elder recently.
it was interesting in a macabre sense.
we were outside the kingdom hall on a nice sunny day recently.
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The point was A) the gb was wrong in the first century and B) paul was not beholden to some imaginary central authority. Neither should dubs today.
*stating the obvious- im not bible believer but if that pans out then i want to have that in my pocket
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Talking with a young elder
by biblexaminer ini had a discussion with an elder recently.
it was interesting in a macabre sense.
we were outside the kingdom hall on a nice sunny day recently.
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How bad do the JWs need to be doing financially
by cognac inbefore they just go ahead and file chapter 7 or 11?
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Interesting points..... Also consider the reason for filling chapter 7/11 is to protect assets and deal with creditors... Would that apply to the wt? What assets are up as collateral and what would need protection? Would there be hope for them to pay off debt? If not what would happen? A sell off? -
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How bad do the JWs need to be doing financially
by cognac inbefore they just go ahead and file chapter 7 or 11?
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Its an interesting question cognac.... If this were a normal company/corporation the answer would be "when it makes financial sense to do so"
the variable here is that they arnt just a corporation, they are a religious cult corporation. The extra 'god is on our side' aspect may drive them to do some otherwise foolish things... My answer though is ultimately: when it makes financial sense to do so. They will spin it the rank and file as a sign of the end type thing, play it up as "we gave it all up for the sake of the good news" blah blah blah.....
the really interesting thing is that it could happen! They were so stable fo so long its facinating to see it as a possibility
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Hello everyone!
by Planetsmashers inive been lurking for a while and finally got around to registering.
about me: i was essentially born in & indoctrinated from youth.
i was always a borderline "bad association" type because i always did the minimum and always disagreed with much of what was taught; even when i was a child.. luckily for me my father was never a jw so i never had to endure the male head pressure.
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You need to marry a ministerial Servant!
by John Aquila ina single sister in her 40s and her two single daughters were visiting my mom.
i would say her daughters are in their early 20s.
my mom got sleepy and we put her to bed but the three sisters stayed to finish their drinks..
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Project Recapture
by Gorbatchov infriends,.
the magnificence seven have the ability to transform a christian fundamentalist religion into a tv / audio provider combined with a property investment department.. so what can we do?
my thoughts are about a global, world wide return of us, people with a different vision, sometimes called faders, apostates, mentally disordered, non-believers to the kingdom hall under the name "project recapture".. it's easy.
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Gorby, its a lovely idea. I agree with much of it.. But there are some aspects i dont.
I don't subscribe to the christain ethos completely anymore, although i do appreciate and respect some of the principles it teaches.
I also have seen that going back once you leave dosent convince anyone to leave, it only entrenchs them more. You came back, after all. They teach fear and propaganda regarding leaving and you or anyone else comming back only feeds the 'see we told you so ' aspect.
If your fading and stuck in then i do see great good that can be done but purposely going back just to try and set a good example is a journey into frustration amd self inflicted misery.
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And China's version of the Nobel prize goes to ... Robert Mugabe! WTF?!
by LoveUniHateExams inaccording to the guardian, the confucius peace prize has been awarded this year to one robert gabriel mugabe.
yes, you read that right.
i suppose i could've put this thread in either the entertainment section or joke section instead.
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_Morpheus
"Something I heard the other day. How many good people have been assassinated are ended up in some sort of dead state? How many scum rise to the top?"
last i checked they all end up dead.