how to fade intelligently ?
tell me your secret and then i will tell you in due time my secret.
it's important when we have to face a manipulative cult with some members of our family trapped inside, yes it is important to know how to fade intelligently so that our jw family members are not going to shun us.
OTWO said :
Fades rarely help one keep JW friends
That's the point. When i decided to fade, I knew, that I will have to change of life (what I wanted) and of social life (what I wanted less). For me, who was single, and ready to leave parent's home, it was really more easy, because I was able to go away without to look back. It was a chance! I decided to keep 0 friends (because of course, all was only JW) and to start my social life again... Not Everybody can do that, of course!
a flash mob is defined as a large public gathering at which people perform an unusual or seemingly random act and then disperse.. jws are now in on the act and were doing this in bath on unsuspecting convention delegates during their tours after the convention.
they did this on at least three seperate occassions.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hmrqr-k4hq.
here's another one, not so public though.
On one hand, this kind of thing, looks so "worldly".... In the another hand, every sign that shows that the old boring conservative GB members are losing grasp little by little on the young JW, is not totally negative...
the new watchtower, 15th february 2015, p6 6, say :.
the bible writer jude recorded an example from jesus prehuman existence.
(read jude 9.
The text about Solomon I think is the Testament of Solomon and I think he has a ring to control demons and demons build the temple for him LOL
Yes! Because of this topic, I have read this book! Very interresting! And very weird too!
how to fade intelligently ?
tell me your secret and then i will tell you in due time my secret.
it's important when we have to face a manipulative cult with some members of our family trapped inside, yes it is important to know how to fade intelligently so that our jw family members are not going to shun us.
Me,
1) I moved to another city for studying very far from my parents home. I went to KH there and I made the minimal work to stay publisher. I asked the congregation of my parents to send my files to the new one, where they don't know my family
2) I moved in Paris to work, without to give my new adress... The file are still in the "temporary" congregation, where they don't know neither where are my parents, neither where I am! :)
we in the psychology/sociology field have a saying "when people protest too loud usually they are overcompensating".
i did not understand that when i first started studying psychology but now i understand it completely and it is so true.
when i hear someone constantly bashing something or someone such as gay bashing or ethnic bashing or religion bashing sometimes i wonder what are they hiding.
Me too!
even when I was JW (except when i was 5 years hold with the yellow biblical story book), I never had a big confidence in all these creationnists thing....
Now I'm a scientific... Then, no need to carify more... I don't believe no more... I became an atheist!
1. a shitty start we don't have to wait more than 4 verses of genesis 6 to put our feet in a big stinky bullshit :.
consequently, jehovah saw that mans wickedness was great on the earth and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only bad all the time.
jehovah regretted that he had made men on the earth, and his heart was saddened.
1. A shitty start
We don't have to wait more than 4 verses of Genesis 6 to put our feet in a big stinky bullshit :
Consequently, Jehovah saw that man’s wickedness was great on the earth and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only bad all the time. Jehovah regretted that he had made men on the earth, and his heart was saddened. So Jehovah said: “I am going to wipe men whom I have created off the surface of the ground, man together with domestic animals, creeping animals, and flying creatures of the heavens, for I regret that I have made them.” But Noah found favor in the eyes of Jehovah. (Genesis 6:5-8)
But it's totally stupid! At the last news I had, God was omniscient! Then he know everything : the past, the futur, the present, and even why people are stroking more stronger the keys of their defective keyboard even if it's unusefull. Then he had to know that the Man will screw up, and if that bother him so much, he just had to not create it. Especially that, finally didn't change nothing at all, like prove it one of the last verse of the story :
Surtout qu’au final, toute cette extermination ne change strictement rien comme le prouve un des derniers verset de l’histoire de Noé :
And Jehovah began to smell a pleasing aroma. So Jehovah said in his heart: “Never again will I curse the ground on man’s account, for the inclination of the heart of man is bad from his youth up;and never again will I strike down every living thing as I have done. (Genesis 8.21)
And God needs a total holocaust to realize that? What a stupid! It was the more stupid divine action never seen!
OK, I overemphasize! The holocaust is not total because God decided to save Noah and his family. Why Noah? Nobody really know :
"Noah was a righteous man. He proved himself faultless among his contemporaries. Noah walked with the true God. In time Noah became father to three sons, Shem, Ham, and Ja′pheth. But the earth had become ruined in the sight of the true God, and the earth was filled with violence. Yes, God looked upon the earth, and it was ruined; all flesh had ruined its way on the earth. After that God said to Noah: “I have decided to put an end to all flesh, because the earth is full of violence on account of them, so I am bringing them to ruin together with the earth." (Genesis 6:9-13)
God have big gaps of exactness. "Righteous and faultless", ok, but on which standards??? The 10 commandments didn't exist, then how to know who make good and who make bad? And the children ? Hop we kill everybody because they don't follow the law I will give later?
OK, I guess that I see the bad everywhere! If the bible say that God is love, It's certainly true!
2. The building of the ark.
Ok, now God is resolute to drown everybody for nothing, (and don't ask me why he didn't just click his fingers to make them disapear, perhaps he had lost the user manual after having created the universe in 6 days), Noah have to save his family and the animals. But, God, in his greatness will give him very precise directives :
" Make for yourself an ark from resinous wood. You will make compartments in the ark and cover it with tar inside and outside. This is how you will make it: The ark should be 300 cubits long, 50 cubits wide, and 30 cubits high. You will make a window for light for the ark, one cubit from the top. You should put the entrance of the ark in its side and make it with a lower deck, a second deck, and a third deck. "(Genesis 6.14-16)
You are so great my God! I'm sure Noah was happy with that. Tomorrow, I will ask a friend to build me a space shuttle with leather seat and carbon hood and I will say, to help him : The shuttle will be 400 meters high, will be in titan, with a porthole! Let's go winner!
OK! Let's accept the creationnist way of thinking taht Gog gave by telepathy all the plans of the ark and a third dan belt of carpentry. But you have to explain me now how Noah will brave the physics law to build a boat of 138 meters long, when all the boat builders in the world say that sailing in ocean with a wood boat more than 100 meters long is only suicide! The only boat more long than that had steel armatures and was taking water a lot. That's explain why, more the technics of sailing was great, more the boats was more and more high and short, and not long and low like the ark!
OK! Let's accept that a boat defying all naval logical architectural rules can sail because of a miracle from the hat of god, you have to build it, and it's far to be easily done! If you count Noah, his wife and his sons, they are 8 to build the more big boat of the human history. Sure, they have hundreds of year (because the story say that noah lived many hundreds years), but the french in the XVIeme century, build boats half of the size of the ark and it was 300 people working during 3 years to finish it... Then for 8 people, you need 225 years to build the ark! But the creationnists have an explanation for that : Noah recruit a lot of people to help him! You have to explain me how Noah will psychologically motivate the people to work on the ark during several years and to find closed door the day D! Then it's not possible Noah made work people for him. Then you will have to explain me how the first planks, 225 years old, are still great and are nor rotten! But the creationnists have an explanation for that too : That's why he used tar! tar? the hydrocarbur? Ok! Then how Noah could find hydrocarbur ? Creationnists say that it's the deluge who created hydrocarbur! And we can continue with these points :
3. Animals & logistic
4. Boarding of the magical zoo
5. The Flood : Strength of rain
6. The life on board
7. After the Flood
i live in the usa and want to ship my game consoles (xbox, playstation, wi, ect), laptop, and other items to my wife's family in the philippines.
i've used a company locally that ships there at a fix price of $90 per box.
so whatever i fit in the box will ship at that rate regardless of weight.
FedEx, UPS or DHL don't make the job?
And If the local customs official are corrupted, no shipping service will be able to get around that...
apologies, clumsy fingers again.
but be patient, at some a point a real post may appear..
I hope you don't think that Dassault will overtake thes two monsters !
the new watchtower, 15th february 2015, p6 6, say :.
the bible writer jude recorded an example from jesus prehuman existence.
(read jude 9.
The question, treated in Doug Mason's excellent paper on this, is :
Why do the WT/JW Org accept as Canonical the writings chosen by what they call the Apostate Church of around 380 C.E ?
With this added question :
Is not their NW Translation an Apostate Bible ?
Do you have a link on this paper ? I'm really interested!
were they pretty much a good group of men?
we're they jerks?.
Me, I think I had chance about the BOE I had, 15 years ago, in a city, that perhaps some knows, Rheims, in france, the capital of the Champagne..
There I had two elders who was scientifics (high level), one rich like hell (champagne producer) and one who was a lawyer (high level)... These three elders rules all the another, who, honestly, just obey..
I don't know how it's now, but last time I ask my parents, they sais that they all gone... or because they really up in the organisation (one of the scientifics seems to be now in brooklyn and driving all thje scientific article of WT) or because they leave
For the one in brooklyn, we're the sama age, and we drank so much together when we was young.. I know the only thing he had in mind was to be a ruler of the GB.... he will succeed, I know him... if you see a french in the GB one day, it's him! :D
