Perry it sounds like you are one of those ridiculous pre-suppositionalists.
You and they have no authority to speak on subjects of deism. Ignoring any and all evidence is a cop out of epic proportions.
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72Coping With Atheism (Long-ish Post...sorry!)
by humblepotato inlong time lurker (2009-ish), first time poster.
first of all, i want to say thank you everyone who contributes to these boards and provokes stimulating conversations and thought processes.
all the opinions and different perspectives are very enlightening.
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The poor and deprived life of JW children.
by Esse quam videri ini find it hard to believe that adults on this forum make such a big deal about not celebrating birthdays, x-mas, easter, halloween, etc, etc, etc.
i grew up as a jw kid and it actually made me feel good, being different from the other kids in school.
we went to meetings.
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azor
I have grown to hate when people like esse come on this site and spew their vile over others. His experience as mentioned before is just that his. There is nothing wrong with that. Where I take issue is when he and others like him start casting his experiences upon others as though they had similar or the same upbringing.
What about those that have been abused. Had a friend or family member commit suicide. Have a close friend or relative die because the parents refused to allow their child to have a blood transfusion.
It is for this reason that he and others like him are FUQIN A**HOLES. People are dying here. Stop being like the KINGS of FUQIN A**HOLES those at the top of this cult that continue to kill people.
Stop telling people how they should feel, act, or otherwise. It's not any of our places to do so. Everyone here are at different places depending on the extent of indoctrination and personal experiences. People like esse drive me nuts because they can push someone already on the edge looking here over that edge. I personally want others like me who are starting to come out to not have to continue to endure others judgemental attitudes.
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The poor and deprived life of JW children.
by Esse quam videri ini find it hard to believe that adults on this forum make such a big deal about not celebrating birthdays, x-mas, easter, halloween, etc, etc, etc.
i grew up as a jw kid and it actually made me feel good, being different from the other kids in school.
we went to meetings.
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azor
To everyone that agrees with esse.
The issue is his judgement of others by telling them to grow up and get over it.
His experience is just that, his experience. For those like him and me by the way that don't have many childhood complaints for not knowing any better. That is fine express that.
It disgusts me when people like him come on boards like this one and blast others. Everything up to his last statement was fine.
It is because of the last statement that he is a FUQIN A**HOLE!!!
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The poor and deprived life of JW children.
by Esse quam videri ini find it hard to believe that adults on this forum make such a big deal about not celebrating birthdays, x-mas, easter, halloween, etc, etc, etc.
i grew up as a jw kid and it actually made me feel good, being different from the other kids in school.
we went to meetings.
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azor
Esse. I will keep this short.
YOU ARE A FUQING A**HOLE!
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They only care about themselves......
by dubstepped ini've watched the reaction to the nepal disaster for the first time with eyes opened.
lots of comments about praying for the brothers and sisters affected.
the official release on the website references only the sister and her two children that died, along with the impact on the brothers there.
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azor
I recently participated in a 5K drive for Ronald McDonald house charities that help children and their families with cancer. Providing a place to stay near hospitals while children are in the hospital and camps that let kids be kids.
The only group that didn't contribute were my witness family and so called friends.
My son has leukemia and they all know him personally. Most of the people that contributed have not met him.
You are right most JW's have the humanity beaten out of them.
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Compliment or criticism - what affects you most?
by EdenOne ina bit of introspection on this one ... just read on someone's post that a compliment makes him "float" for hours, and it got me thinking; within the spectrum of comments that people make about me, from compliment to criticism, which is the type that most affects me?.
after my experience as a jehovah's witness, i find that i've become suspicious of compliments and over-sensitive to criticism.
because a common technique of elders was to compliment someone before going down to business, that is, giving hard counseling or discipline.
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azor
I would first like to apologize for something I wrote on another thread to you edenone.
I try to live by the motto that real friends stab you in the front. It's not always easy but I do try to take criticism as from someone who told me something they didn't have to. Most people shy away from anything with a hint of unpleasantness.
I to am leary of compliments. I believe much of it is from being indoctrinated with the teaching that we are unworthy servants and have done what we ought to have done. This cult has taught us that individuals don't matter. It sucks to struggle with the continuous self doubt and self deprecating.
A compliment should be taken as just that. Praise and appreciation of who and what we bring to the table. Here's to you eden one and everyone else here who has had the courage to leave this cult and continue to help newbies like me recover. Thank you all.
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EVIDENCE
by azor inyoutube channel evid3nc3.
click on playlist and select "why i am no longer a christian.
" this is one of the most comprehensive and sensitive breakdowns of theism i have seen.
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EVIDENCE
by azor inyoutube channel evid3nc3.
click on playlist and select "why i am no longer a christian.
" this is one of the most comprehensive and sensitive breakdowns of theism i have seen.
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YouTube channel Evid3nc3. Click on playlist and select "Why I Am No Longer A Christian." This is one of the most comprehensive and sensitive breakdowns of Theism I have seen. It is broken down into very viewable sections.
Whether you are a theist, atheist, or somewhere in between this is a story we all can relate to as exjws. Please check out and let me know your thoughts.
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Having Faith in the Bible
by william draper ini know many on here have lost faith in the bible , is it possible that is because ones do not have the right perspective regarding it .
we have usually been taught by bad teachers , or ignorant .
i believe if we take an honest look at the bible , we will see that it gives us the best answers to crucial matters , it gives us some amount of bearings ( understanding ) , which without having such knowledge we would all be more like walking zombies in amanner of speaking , we would be lacking hope in something better , for surely something better is to come , how can we be sure , .
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Question for atheists and nonbelievers
by pressman ini profess to teach the truth to you all and get you to all to think and believe.
believing in christ through his words and not through evil religious cults, like hoj and jw, can and will save you.
do you all realize that every time you are victorious and receive something of value through your hard work and sweat, it was our holy god who blessed you.
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azor
I just finished viewing a tremendous breakdown of a former believers journey. I couldn't stop listening. It took all day and well worth it. It has been the most comprehensive and sensitive address I have considered so far. If any are interested I highly recommend going to his YouTube channel. The name of the channel is Evid3nc3. Go to his playlist and consider his articulate breakdown with many references for yourself.