Posts by pc

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Raising children in the borg

by Maverick in

i have been visiting this site for about a year now.

i was not raised a jw.

i got conned in as an adult but my now ex-wife was raised in the collective.

I have to agree with Avi, we were not allowed to join in any activities. My dad was the PO and we had to be examples to the cong. Things, I think, changed later on. I grew up during the late 60's and 70's. If you came from outside and became a JW you also would have had some experience with holidays and the like. Just recently I was explaining to my children what my life was like in the "cult" and my 12year old said "mom that is just so sad". Out of the mouths of babes. I've been out for years and have just begun to really participate in holidays and birthdays without guilt. I remember getting something for my birthday only once in my life. My parents were great,they loved us more than life, unfortunetly they were as brainwashed as the rest of us. The only problem for them was there was no COC, and no internet. PC

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The Drive Home Tonight,Crying.

by Blueblades in

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let's see,where do i start?i decided to have a quiet drive home after work.it takes about one and half hours.no cd playing,no talk radio,no news, just a quiet drive listening to my own thoughts.i'm not concentrating on any one thing,just kind of letting my mind flow wherever it wants to.. then it starts,my mind goes back to when our children were small.as i'm driving i am having this flashback,i'm going to save my family from dying at armageddon,why the little ones are dependant on us for their future life happiness.. there will be no birthday parties,holiday celebrations,even though one of them was born on the 4th of july.no extra-curricular activities at school,and everyone will know that they don't salute the flag,nor sing the national anthem.and at the infirmary they know that they are not to take blood.. after school homework,the preparing for meetings,more studying comes next.no tv.

tonight,it's a meeting night.oh goody,the weekend is here,now we can go out and play.sorry,we have to go out in field service,mommy and daddy will show you how to have so much fun in the field service on saturday and sunday.. i start to cry,literally,there is real pain in my chest and a lump in my throat.as i have this flashback on the drive home tonight.i think of how i robbed my children of their childhood,i'm getting very emotional and angry,a picture flashes across my mind of all those years,30 plus,that i lost for my wife and children.the opportunities that we turned down,we are going to survive armageddon!.

i have had a talked with my family about my regrets over having put my family through this before and they don't blame me.they feel that i was doing what i thought was the best for them at the time.they forgive me,but i having yet forgiven myself.. the family says that they learned something about life,religion etc.that the experience has not made them bitter,and they have moved on.the children are happily married and doing fine.my wife and i are doing the best that we can with what time we have left.we are in our sixties,no retirement or pension fund.taking it day to day.. this is what happened on the quiet drive home tonight,it's been a year and a half of being inactive and still the flashbacks of the past 30 something years in the watchtower and all of what that has entail in raising my family still wells up inside me when i try to rest my mind and think of nothing.. i cried all the way home for one and a half hours,pain in my chest and heart,my head feeling like it would explode,angry at the society for the big chunk of life that they stole from us.. and i thought of so many others sharing the same feelings and experiences as my family,and those still stuck inside.soon as i arrived home,i collected myself together and said:"hi honey,i'm home!

pc

Dear Blueblades,

As I respond to your post I feel overwhelmed with all the momories of my life. It is so unbelieveable that we all can feel the exact emotion. That's what I have found comforting in reading everyone's post. The saying you have to walk in another man's shoes to know what he's going through is so poignant here. Every feeling your espouse is something most here have felt. It's almost as if we would be better off with the notion ignorance is bliss. If we just didn't find out would that be better? Absolutley not!! I'm am sorry for you for what could have been, but jubilant for what is. You are a truly loving person, for your family that is the greatest gift of all. I to have driven home sobbing for what might have been, but walk in my door, grab my children, wait for my husband and realize how lucky I am. I pray for all those here and everywhere who have lost thier families, because that is the greasest sin and saddest thing that the WATCHTOWER ORGANIZATION has caused!!! Again thank you for you post,PC

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Alexander Hislop Two Babylons

by pc in

i read the post about vine and was wondering if anyone has more information on hislop.

my family always quoted his book two babylons in regard to the cross and other so called pagan origins.

late this fall i started to research his book and found the inconsistencies with it.

pc

Thank you Machislop and Saint Satan, pc

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Alexander Hislop Two Babylons

by pc in

i read the post about vine and was wondering if anyone has more information on hislop.

my family always quoted his book two babylons in regard to the cross and other so called pagan origins.

late this fall i started to research his book and found the inconsistencies with it.

pc

Euphe, My dad is in his 80's and still quotes things from way back when. My dad was the presiding overseer in the 60's. Went to Gilead and was taken under the wing of one of the "annointed". I'm just trying to use information that he is familiar with and something that might stir his mind. I had already found that site if you read my post. I'm looking for additional because Woodrow was closely connected to a specific christian site. pc

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Alexander Hislop Two Babylons

by pc in

i read the post about vine and was wondering if anyone has more information on hislop.

my family always quoted his book two babylons in regard to the cross and other so called pagan origins.

late this fall i started to research his book and found the inconsistencies with it.

pc

I'm trying to find information in regard to disputing the book. A few months ago my dad showed me this book and said "even non Jehovah Witnesses know that the cross is from pagan worship". I said "who is this guy Hislop anyway, what are his credentials"? So I went on line and tried to find some info. I came across someone who said he was at one time a follower of Hislops beliefs and then found out he basically left out certain information to help his points. I was brand new to this so did not book mark it. I have since found this website and thought maybe someone could lead me in the right direction. Thanks pc

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Believers ? I need your input ? elder called and left my mother in tears

by acsot in

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[quick update: almost a year ago my mother had two strokes and a heart attack.

needless to say, we haven?t stepped foot in a kingdom hell since then.

some of the rank and file have been kind and supportive, so i have them over to the house once in awhile (i?m also doing it for selfish reasons since it gives me a break and i can get out)]

pc

Ascot, I sent you a message, pc

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Alexander Hislop Two Babylons

by pc in

i read the post about vine and was wondering if anyone has more information on hislop.

my family always quoted his book two babylons in regard to the cross and other so called pagan origins.

late this fall i started to research his book and found the inconsistencies with it.

pc

I read the post about Vine and was wondering if anyone has more information on Hislop. My family always quoted his book Two Babylons in regard to the cross and other so called pagan origins. Late this fall I started to research his book and found the inconsistencies with it. I have found Ralph Woodrow and Dustin Segers who have written in regard to the book and stated it's slanted views. Anyone have other info for me? pc

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Question about UN assoication

by pc in

the wtbs said they had to join to use the library is that true?

pc

The WTBS said they had to join to use the library is that true?