Funny thing is I really never prayed. Only when I thought a demon was coming for me in the middle of the night!!
Jehovah, Jehovah, Jehovah LOL
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did you pray for health, even if you knew that only in the new system your health would get better.... did you pray for a bible study?.
did you pray not to be tempted by the debil?
Funny thing is I really never prayed. Only when I thought a demon was coming for me in the middle of the night!!
Jehovah, Jehovah, Jehovah LOL
just told my jw dad( who only talks about witness stuff ) we will be finishing decorating our christmas tree tonight.
he then started with the old so & so said blah blah blah about christmas being pagan.
i cut him right off and said"i know what they say but for us it's about family".
Just told my JW dad( who only talks about witness stuff ) we will be finishing decorating our Christmas tree tonight. He then started with the old so & so said blah blah blah about Christmas being pagan. I cut him right off and said"I know what they say but for us it's about family". We love getting together with my husbands family and now my exjw brother and his family come. The kids love it so I don't care what anyone says. Then I said listen dad everyone can't pick and chose what they want to see as pagan. How about wedding rings thier pagan but you still wear yours and mom's after she died. He just stopped and changed the subject. The funny thing is my other brother who is an Elder came last year to Christmas Eve. We worked it all around him. No gift exchanges till they left and stayed out of the living room so he didn't have to see the tree. I decided this year not to invite him because it really put a damper on everyone else. Funny thing is I spoke to him the other day and he sounded so depressed. I think he was waiting for an invitation but I said nothing. I kinda felt sorry for him.
in looking at so many post over time, i've come to the conclusion that so many of us as witnesses, seemingly have a predisposition towards emotional disorders and mental illness.
just reading some of the post on suicide, i get the feeling that there is some subtle force that exhibits itself in the teaching in the kh that can have a tendency to draw this kind of energy out of someone.
i couldn't see it while on the inside, now that i'm out ,however, i can see things so much differently.
Prophecor
The whole indoctrination of JW's makes people mentally ill. I was raised a JW and faded many years ago, but still stayed partially connected to it. It's the belief that everything is going to end and hopefully you'll make it leaves a person with no ambitions. After stumbling upon this site and finding out all the deception it was really depressing. Now I feel so free!!! I realize I was brainwashed meeting after meeting of that same repetitive BULLS$HT. That is the reason for all the mental illness and depression that surrounds them. PC
there's a new essay on commentary press discussing the trinity.
http://www.commentarypress.com/eng-onetruegod.html .
for any interested in that topic.
What does it really matter. If God wanted it to be so clear why would we need all this translation and definite article nonsense. How about if you believe the bible you just pick it up and read it. I too have exhausted myself from trying to "figure it out" and guess what I DON"T UNDERSTAND! I love to read everyones input, but at the end of the day I pray for faith. I am not sure what I believe, I only hope I'm being a better person and helping someone who needs it other than myself. If you believe Jesus is God fine, if you don't that's fine too. I think trying to mimic what Christ represents is probably the first step to being something better than we are. Just my 2 cents.
my best friend was worldly all through elementary to high school.
we are still good friends.
i wonder if that led to our being a tad bit more open minded and aided in our exit???
I had tons of worldly friends. My dad was the head honcho in our congregation. I was the youngest of four kids so my parents never knew what I was doing. Alot of the people in the congregation didn't want thier kids to hangout with me. Eveyone thought I was a bad influence(how right they were). My best friend to this day was a JW with me. We always met all the bad JW kids from other congregations at the assemblies. We use to go to Yankee Stadium for the big assemblies all met up and leave and go to some park and hang out. Our parents didn't even know we were gone. It was in the 70's. pc
i recently found these forums and have been browsing them.
i thought it time to introduce myself in case i ever have something to say.
here is a very brief history (it may not seem brief but with all that has gone on and is going on, trust me, it's brief .
A very warm welcome Lelani. I understand completely the blood thing with your dad, my mom died 3 years ago the same way. I am sorry for your loss. pc
my wife and i got on a discussion about something i never would've guessed we'd need to.
she wants to teach our new baby about santa claus, easter bunny, & tooth fairy, but i don't.
of course, as witnesses we never would have taught that, and i have to acknowledge that i may only be reasoning using that old set of values.. i don't want to look into my kid's eyes and tell her something that i know for a fact isn't true.
First I wonder if peoples responces on this topic are varied based on them having children or not, and childrens ages.
I also wonder for all those saying we are perpetuating a lie, I guess reading Peter Pan, Alice In Wonderland, and Harry Potter are also unacceptable.
My sister-in-law (Catholic) decided she wouldn't "lie" to her children and told them the truth at ages 5& 7. As teenagers now they wish thier mother had "lied". One of my sons still believes at 9 and I am so happy he does. Everyone wants to believe in something so out of the ordinary and magical. I love my JW brothers who can't wait to through all these comments about Santa to spoil it for him. It just shows there hurtful nature. In the scheme of what goes on in life what does it matter! HO HO HO !
Just my opinion for what it's worth. pc
why are jw's so haughty about the bible?
having to deal with my dad and my brother any question you raise to them they act like your an complete a##hole.
do you look back now and see how awful you acted?
Why are JW's so haughty about the bible? Were you someone like that? Having to deal with my Dad and my brother any question you raise to them they act like your an complete a##hole. Do you look back now and see how awful you acted?
is there a "need" on your part to regain some form of spirtuality?
at this point in time, do you not want to hear anything about god, the bible, jesus, buddah, etc.?????
are you still "searching"?
I never felt a spiritual void. I have, however, found a church that I love. It was started by a small group of people in my town who left another church. Everyone for the most part is just happy getting together, reading the bible, having dinner ,and cementing our friendships. I feel more spiritual now then ever before.
since we were indoctrinated that those leaving the organiztion had their lives turn into sh*t until they "returned to jehovah (the organization), how would you say things have turned out--so far?
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I am not surprised because i never did get the intolerence and hypocricy, but have left the intense guilt behind. I always echo these words "the truth will set you free".