Posts by Atilla

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What's your basic attitude?

by seattleniceguy in

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i think that if i had to describe my basic attitude toward life, the universe, and everything in one sentence, it would be this:.

generally, and on reflection, life is better today than it was yesterday.. very anti-thetical to the wt view of things, i know.

sng

JW's and pets

by SuperMommy in

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does the wts have any rules...even unsaid implications...on pet ownership.

i have been hearing conflicting thing.

Atilla

Well, I know in the past the WT has said that a husband can not be DF'd for bestiality, so they must be ok with pet ownership, everyone needs an outlet

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How far can I trust my JW parents?

by Atilla in

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my parents know how i feel about the whole religion and they now know that i will never come back.

there is a somewhat cordial existance at this point but i feel this won't last for long.

my wife and i regulary visit my parents and sometimes we even leave our 2 yr child at their house overnight.

Atilla

here's a link to some great advice I got........

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/72461/1.ashx

Chevy,

good link

I think my parents are beginning to realize that no one in their congregation is going to help them and my parents are actually trying to move closer to me and away from our old KH. For one, everyone is either getting old in their KH or belongs to a family clique that may have 30 or more members in it. No so with my parents, it's just them and that's it. Also, I believe they have been politically damaged by the fact that both me and my brother have left, thus I think their so called dub friends may feel they get what they deserve.

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What are you listening to as you read?

by reboot in

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can't get over how good the new jet album get born is...there's a definate t-rex resurrection revival going on here....with a little ac/dc thrown in for good measure ..its awesome...some amazing acoustic guitar based guitar ballads too- a real ecclectic mix that hangs really well together..got to have the headphones on though as its got to be loud..now all i have to do is hope they get better before glastonbury.

what are you listening to tonight?

Atilla

I feeling pissed off, so NIN.

25

Speed Limits

by Abaddon in

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i had to drive about 600km (370 miles) to hamburg and back again yesterday on business.. for those of you that don't know, large parts of the german network of autobahns (freeways) have no speed limit.. of course, those who say german's don't have a sense of humour won't have though in detail about having a network of two-lane dual carriageways with no speed limit.

a very funny idea.. it was still a pretty good average speed (about 135km/h, 83mph) for the part of the journey in germany, and we , but as i got up to 220km/h (135mph) at various points and cruised over 160km/h (100mph) a lot, if they'd been a third lane it would have been a lot higher.

one side effect is once you are back down to normal highway speeds (120km/h) it feels like you're doing 50k/mh.

Atilla

I actually haven't gotten one ticket since leaving the org. For one, I'm not in a hurry to get to the KH or get home for that matter, (yes, I actually got a ticket on my way to meeting once, kinda of embarrassing because other dubs saw me pulled over) and 2nd, I drive a Toyota Camry automatic now and not a Saab Turbo like I used too.

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How far can I trust my JW parents?

by Atilla in

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my parents know how i feel about the whole religion and they now know that i will never come back.

there is a somewhat cordial existance at this point but i feel this won't last for long.

my wife and i regulary visit my parents and sometimes we even leave our 2 yr child at their house overnight.

Atilla

Well, I would say at least $100 if not more and I know they have donated a lot more in the past especially when my dad was in charge of accounts. If there was any deficit for receits vs. books, he most likely made it up. In addition, my mom never got a real full time job over the last thirty years so she could aux. pioneer and play the role of an elder's wife. In addition, I just recently found out that my dad didn't get his doctorate and become a professor like he originally intended because of my mom and the whole religion thing.

So, I would say that they may be screwed when it come to retirement.

As for my child, I have laid down guidelines stating that I never want them to talk about relgion to him, but I still have my doubts.

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How far can I trust my JW parents?

by Atilla in

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my parents know how i feel about the whole religion and they now know that i will never come back.

there is a somewhat cordial existance at this point but i feel this won't last for long.

my wife and i regulary visit my parents and sometimes we even leave our 2 yr child at their house overnight.

Atilla

My parents know how I feel about the whole religion and they now know that I will never come back. There is a somewhat cordial existance at this point but I feel this won't last for long. Why? My wife and I regulary visit my parents and sometimes we even leave our 2 yr child at their house overnight. While I trust them with the safety of my child, I don't trust them to keep their JW religion away from my child. In addition, as they grow older, they aren't exactly making the best financial decisions with regards to retirement, etc.

They probably still donate $100 if not more a month to the KH which is their decision but I don't want to be stuck with the end bill. If my parents have problems as they grow older, I would feel obligated to help them up to a point. I mean if I tell them the financial water falls are just ahead and they keep paddling full ahead, then it is out of my hands.

Thus, I may soon have to tell my parents that it is our relationship or the religion. Choose now or else, consequences be damned. I say better to cut them off now instead of getting dragged in myself.

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Are we too hard on INDIVIDUAL JW's?

by outbutnotdown in

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i am definitely no longer a jw (11 years).

that having been said, living in a "democratic" land, the one thing that is challenging is agreeing with freedom of religion, but also protesting when it becomes offensive.

don't get me wrong..... my family shuns me completely and i do think that it is "offensive", and against the laws of nature, which makes the point even more legitimate...... : do they really know what they are doing?

Atilla

I don't think we are hard enough because most of were once dubs. We may feel sorry for them and might not be as confrontational as we should be, as we have the right to be upset and let them know what we think!

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Any suggestions are welcome

by skittles4u in

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i have been dating my girlfriend for a little while now.

we have a great relationship, for the most part everything is great, we get along etc.. .

but she has a concern about me.

Atilla

Take her to the Kingdom Hall and then a Sunday afternoon in service, oh wait never mind. Sorry, no suggestions.

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Moscow's final ban on Jehovah's Witnesses!

by Joker10 in

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moscow upholds ban on jehovah's witnesses

by maria danilova.

associated press writer leader of russian jehovah's witnesses, vasily kalin, right, jehovah's witnesses' canadian lawyer john burns, center, and spokesman for the jehovah's witnesses christian presber, stand in front of the moscow city court, wednesday, june 16, 2004. a moscow court upheld a ban on the city's jehovah's witnesses, ending a six-year case that reflected growing pressure to stifle minority religious groups in russia, where orthodox christianity is predominant.

Atilla

Go Russia and just think about all the money the WT wasted in litigation.