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  I am attending an assembly.

  by jwbot in

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  the circuit assembly is coming up in september.

  there are several reasons i am going:it is at the maine center for the arts, at my college.

  i really like this place, it would be interesting..my mother told me that i would not be shunned ("what would be the point on going?

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  Atilla

  Go have some fun, this time you will be on the outside of the fish bowl looking in.
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  Question... Do JWs shun Family?

  by Sassy in

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  i had a disagreement with xq in chat today, because he was trying to say that jws for the most part disobey the wts and still treat family like family even if they are dfd or quit being witnesses.. i don't feel that is true.

  i think that the majority of us on here who no longer are jws have family members who no longer have anything to do with us and shun us.... so i said it would be interesting to take a poll and see how many here are treated just like all the rest of your 'loving family' who is a jw still.......are you treated the same?.

  does family shun you for being df'd, da'd or no longer participating?or do they hide and talk to you but only when other active jws can't see?

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  Atilla

  Why ask the Pharisees what Jesus did or said? Suggestion - get the 2003 CD rom from the society from your family/friends and check it out yourself

  Are you calling us Pharisees, if you are well then thanks I guess. Secondly, how would the WT CD Rom help in this case, shouldn't someone simply look at the Bible and not man made words by a publishing corporation. Look closely at the back of of the WT CD Rom, notice how the Society doesn't guarantee that what once appeared in print will exactly appear the same way of the CD Rom, i.e. they have changed things to cover their butts.
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  Question... Do JWs shun Family?

  by Sassy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i had a disagreement with xq in chat today, because he was trying to say that jws for the most part disobey the wts and still treat family like family even if they are dfd or quit being witnesses.. i don't feel that is true.

  i think that the majority of us on here who no longer are jws have family members who no longer have anything to do with us and shun us.... so i said it would be interesting to take a poll and see how many here are treated just like all the rest of your 'loving family' who is a jw still.......are you treated the same?.

  does family shun you for being df'd, da'd or no longer participating?or do they hide and talk to you but only when other active jws can't see?

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  Atilla

  Growing up, I knew many cases even in our own KH where the daughter or son was totally shunned until they repented or came back. Now that being said, I have gone to the extreme and by all cases, my parents should no longer talk to me. However, I hold several trump cards. First of all, I have a young child who my parents love and they know better than to cross my "worldly" wife. Secondly, my brother is also not a dub anymore, so it's just them and they don't have many friends at the KH.

  Thus, I have been able to pursue a policy of total anti-JWism. In the last month, I have called up the missionary couple who converted my parents and gave them hell for teaching my parents that crap and I have also hunted down many of my former JW friends and have done some major apostasizing. All of it was done with no consequences and my parents still talk to me just as much. Since I just left 3 years ago and haven't attended meeting since, no one can DF me or even say anything and they know it. The Org. is losing it's power on people.
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  Loyal to America?

  by IronGland in

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  as a boy i lived at times in hampden-sydney, a small college town in virginia, where my family had lived for generations.

  h-s was the old south of idyllic imagination.

  georgian buildings stood on rolling green laws shaded by ancient oaks.

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  Atilla

  Senior Bush calls it, "The New World Order."

  Yep, I remember when I heard Senior Bush say that live on TV. It was the early 90's, I was about 10 yrs. old and we had just got done with the book study. We were studying the Revelation book at the time and our family was assigned to a family's house instead of the KH. It was snack night and someone had turned on the TV and there was Bush talking about the New World Order.

  The lady whose house it was said oh, that is the sign, Armageddon is any day now. Yep, that's what I grew up under, fear and longing for nothing.
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  Swearing on the platform

  by sleepy in

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  did you every hear anyone say something really dodgy from the platform when giving a talk?

  i heard a couple of stories of people getting really enthusiastic when giving a talk or pray accidently swearing.

  one time in my book study group a sister called someone a dickhead in her answer, it was very hard not to laught.

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  Atilla

  No not from the platform but we did have this guy who was nonbaptized publisher(they have the most fun) who swear in his answers. On Sundays, no matter what the subject was, he would ramble on and give like a 3 minute answer full of explitives and them some how tie it back into WWII. Strange fellow.
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  My Governer is gay

  by RR in

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  n.j. governor resigns, admits gay affair

  thu aug 12, 9:51 pm .

  trenton, n.j. - in a stunning declaration, gov.

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  Atilla

  so what?
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  Have you ever preached in a prison?

  by Gerard in

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  it is evident that some prison immates get asimilated while doing their time.

  i wonder if any of you used to preach rutinely in a prison and what was your experience.

  were you asked by elders to do that or were you pro-active?

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  Atilla

  No, but always wanted to go on a prison preaching tour. Even at the time, I didn't really care about the prisioners, I just wanted to see what it was like. I guess I was watching too much OZ on HBO. Go figure.
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  FMZ will be up, up and away for a few days...

  by FMZ in

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  just wanted to let y'all know i am going on vacation to england with wifey.

  will see my family for the first time in three years!

  anyway, i'll be away for a couple of weeks, so don't worry... (unless of course, you see that a plane has gone down somewhere in the atlantic).. love to all, and god bless each and every one of you amazing people.. fmz

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  Atilla

  I wish I had friends and family in London. Well, have fun.
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  JW's and interracial marriage?

  by c.dawn in

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  my nephew a jw who is white is dating another jw who is black with the intent to announce their engagement soon.. i had been reading about the past history of the jw's opinion of the black race.

  old writings that said they were gods people too, but not intelligent as white etc and not qualified intellectually to go door to door to teach etc.that all people would be white in the new system.. i had read of a rope being run down the pews of the fellowship halls to separate the races during services during the 50's early 60's at the halls that did allow intergrated services... this was supposed to have taken place even up to a few years after de-segregation in the schools and other public places took effect.. that in some areas they had their own hall to meet at and the whites had theirs.

  at one point the members of the black hall had asked to meet at the white hall as their building was being repaired or soemthing and they were told no, that some of the members of the white hall wouldn't understand or approve.. and i read that even up into the late 90's, many black members still weren't being given postions or responsibilities that whites had held since the beginning of the jw's.. i was just wondering how far they've come along to improve this image and if anyone knows thier opinion of interracial marriages.

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  Atilla

  No one is born a racist but over time people tend to mold their thinking a certain way which may include prejudices depending on how and where they grew up. Thus, I think many of these issues are deep seated and a religion especially not JW's is not going for the most part to change anything.

  Many younger JW's are very open when it comes to race and I knew many JW white girls who went for the black guys to the chagrin of their JW parents. It was funny to see the parents squirm because they couldn't say anything without being seen as hypocritical.

  So, in the end I think JW's have just as many issues as other groups when it comes to race, but they just lie about their so called perfect harmony. Don't believe me, just go to a convention in Philly and see who sits with who. Sadly, it seems like they are too proud to address such issues.
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  no more income tax?

  by doogie in

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  has anyone seen this?

  sounds like a crap idea to me....

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  Atilla

  I'm not sure what it all means but does this mean the WT can start to charge for the literature again?