Yea, it was a big deal that they were giving talks but then again I lived in the NYC metro area (Orange County, by Wallkill) so it wasn't like they had to travel that far. On top of it, while at the time I thought they were amazing speakers, most of the time they sounded exactly like what they were: bitter old men who believed nearly everything in the world was evil. However, I will say that Fred Franz did amaze me with that he had the whole bible basically memorized and when he did a talk he didn't turn to scriptures but said them verse for verse from memory...yea, I don't agree with the stuff he wrote but I still think that is an amazing piece of dedication.
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Is it getting warm in here or is it just me?
by jeanniebeanz inlately, it seems to be that people are on edge and are forgetting common courtesy in their posts.
people have told me that they were thinking of un-subscribing or at least taking a long break from the board due to people who take their negative opinion of the subject or opinion being discussed, and turn it into a personal attack.. what is happening here?
any idea why this sudden spike in overbearing rude people posting here?
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Beer butt chicken.
by avishai inanyone here make beer-butt chicken?
it's some of the best chicken you'll ever have.
you take a fryer and put a beer can with about 2/3 of the beer in it and whatever spices on the chicken on it, cook it indirectly on the grill til done, and wow.
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Tried it and it is definitely the juiciest chicken I have ever had...plus, like you said it makes a neat little stand for the chicken in the grill.
You should also make some fresh beer battered onion rings to go along with the chicken.
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Latest "talk" by GB member being emailed around
by catchthis innot sure if this is a "made up" email or not -- sounds like any other talk you've ever heard..... .
>a talk recently given by brother guy pierce ... .
>safeguard your spirituality by training your perceptive powers .
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I really hope this isn't a talk by a GB member...I know things were getting simplistic when I pulled away but not this simplistic. Even if this is an outline, I could hardly consider a mash up of several different themes a full talk...
If this is real then maybe I am just finding it much easier to see the childishness of most instruction talks.
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Help me prove to my bf that defellowshipping happens
by MM090503 inhi all.. many of you have probably seen my posts on here before, but if you haven't let me reinterate my story in short for you.. i am currently dating a wonderful guy, but the problem is he has been considering becoming a jw.
he has studdied with them for about a year.
because of me has agreed to do some religion searching and figure out what he really believes.
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but the thing about disfellowshipping is that it doesn't happen without the coaperation of the person who's actually getting disfellowshipped. the only way that action is taken is if that person has talked to the elders about something that they have done and they didn't show a repentant attitude about it. if they didn't want to talk to the elders then they don't have to do it and as long as they don't, they won't be disfellowshipped.
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I have known several former Witnesses disfellowshipped after speaking in confidence of privacy to an elder about a private matter and they were showing a "repentant attitude" about their situation. In fact, in many situations, disfellowshipping someone is used more as a punitive measure (shame the person & deter others) then as a loving measure to get someone to repent.
Also, you say that it is hard to live "your life according to the things god expects of us"...what if living that way comes in direct contrast to what the WTS preaches? Many times throughout the history of Jehovah's Witnesses there have been teachings that were totally incorrect (especially chronology) and yet if you didn't follow those incorrect teachings then you would be disfellowshipped for apostasy...you can honestly say it is correct to not correctly follow God's word just because a man-made organization teaches differently at the time?
BTW, Amelia, your photo looks awfully familiar...have you posted here under a different name before?
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What is the "SPECIAL" announcement to be made on Sunday?
by Jez in.
does anyone know?
i heard it through the grapevine, that there is to be one this sunday.. jez
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They will be releasing an updated version of the Organized to Accomplish Your Ministry Book and handing out a copy to each baptized JW. I think there is a thread around here on it.
While I find it hard to even look at the literature these days, I am curious to what exactly did they change so that they needed an updated copy of the Organized book. Maybe they made the baptismal questions multiple choice...
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Religious frustration...? Or just plain Murder...?
by Rabbit inthe following story sent chills down my spine.
people do go 'crazy' in all kinds of stressful situations, they go into a homocidal 'mode' for who knows what reasons.
it's just when it happens in a church...a place that is supposed to be there for the "peace and happiness" of the members...?
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saying his job as a contractor for GE Healthcare in Waukesha was due to end March 25 but he wasn't being fired (what???)
He is a contractor, Blondie, and thusly he had a set time period for the job that he was doing. For instance, there are many computer programmers who do contract work for a year with a company and then do another contract with someone else...basically, his contract was expiring 3/25 so he wouldn't have any more work with the current company he was at.
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Which did you think was worse, df'd or da'd people?
by pennycandy inas a jw, when i'd find out someone got disfellowshipped, i'd shake my head and think, "what a selfish person.
choosing immorality (it had to be immorality) over jehovah.
i hope i never make such bad choices.
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I DA'd for the same reason that seattleniceguy did...my family wouldn't of gotten the point that I truly didn't believe in my stance if I didn't DA myself. It might be playing their "game" but to my family it is no "game" so I had to do something on their thinking level which showed that I no longer considered myself a JW and DAing was the best thing to do. Also, I didn't want to have any attachment to the WTS organization...
To answer the topic, I always looked at disfellowshipped brothers & sisters with pity because I felt that they were too weak to do what is right...there were a fair share though that I felt needed it to get themselves in line (oh man, I can't believe I thought like that). Disassociating didn't come up much since I lived near Watchtower Farms and the elders in that area are "on top of things" (translation: they are in everyone's business)...I only remember one brother disassociating and he ended up going back to the meetings after a couple of years.
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Do you hide apostate literature on your computer?
by JH in.
i was wondering how many here take special precautions, like deleting internet files and clearing your internet history, so that no one else may use your computer and find out that you're visiting apostate forums and reading apostate literature.. maybe some won't even put a jwd icon on their desktop, just incase a jw family member could see it.. .
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I have no need to...the people I am around now could care less about JWs and my family "socially shuns" me so they wouldn't be in a position to see what I read or do on my PC.
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News Article: JW Purposely Risking Health
by rebel8 inhttp://msnbc.msn.com/id/3339730/site/newsweek/
dr. suki tepperberg, a family physician in dorchester, mass., has concerns about those who put too much faith in god?s will.
one of her patients, a jehovah?s witness who has diabetes and hypertension, believes her illness is in god?s hands and she sometimes eats destructively, harming her health.
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This is one of those rare occasions where I say that the WTS is a small factor with this lady's feelings...while there have been many stories of prayer supposedly being a deciding factor in someone's health getting better, the WTS also always said that someone should follow proper medical advice of their doctor (as long as it doesn't go against their "bible trained" principles...snicker). I can't stand people who are so self-destructive and then have the nerve to say that God will bail them out...