Posts by dh

I doubt there are any dangerous sex predators on here, (people who will actually act on their sick thoughts). I think being confined to text does sort of put a safety barrier up, and those people who do not post what they look like or any personal info are theoretically safer, but since folks on JWD are from so far apart it would be a really driven predator who would travel thousands of miles just to rape or kill someone, don't you think?

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Where would we be now if there was never a concept of God?

by dh in

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friends

if (for the sake of argument for those who believe in god) there was no god, and no human being who ever lived had ever come up with or even had a concept of god or a higher being.

where do you think we as human beings would be today.

what do you think our history would be like, and our future?

dh

Before you dismiss that thought, consider this: we are where we are because we have been where we have been. It couldn't have been any other way. The results would have been vastly different from what we see around us. Do you genuinely think we could have got to this level of complexity without the intermediary stages?

I agree completely with what you say here LT and that is why the crux of the question is on the 'where' (as a species). Of course there would have to be intermediary stages to get where we are now, though I also think if we would have just gone about things differently (i.e. the idea of God not even being thought of) we would be in a different place for a different set of intermediary reasons. Perhaps our advances would be less mechanical and more artistic, perhaps we would have sought space sooner, or later, or perhaps we never would have even got that far because without rocket technology we wouldn't have rockets and they came about due to a war and that war came about due in many respects to religion, so many of our advances come about from war and war is so often down to ideology and religion so often drives that, and so on, so I think the intermediary reasons are very important to where we are now, but since they are so heavily influenced, it is like imagining a 'could be' world that never existed.

I guess where I differ is that I just don't think we would be like shaking poodles if we didn't have the notion of God or a higher power, and I don't think it's a concept or feeling of God that made us venture beyond our caves anymore than I think God himself did, if there is one, I think that's just part of being human and given time we would always take that leap.

Maybe it would always be our nature to lean towards there being a supreme power, or maybe that idea was not a human creation but something someone from somewhere else gave us in an earlier stage of our development and that we in a less informed state took as true, maybe, maybe not, but it's possible, just like ill informed people takes on what JW's tell them as true when others say firmly it is not.

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How Do You Think Jehovah's Witnesses Actually "Get" People?

by minimus in

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friends

why do they succeed in getting people baptized?

what do you think??

?

dh

Because with the right set of lies, people are easy to manipulate, across the board.

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Where would we be now if there was never a concept of God?

by dh in

jw
friends

if (for the sake of argument for those who believe in god) there was no god, and no human being who ever lived had ever come up with or even had a concept of god or a higher being.

where do you think we as human beings would be today.

what do you think our history would be like, and our future?

dh

I often wonder this.

If (for the sake of argument for those who believe in God) there was no God, and no human being who ever lived had ever come up with or even had a concept of God or a higher being. Where do you think we as human beings would be today. What do you think our history would be like, and our future?

For those out there who don't believe there is a God, how infuriating it must be to have their lives so effected by what to them is essentially just a phoeny concept!

It is a type of ageless oppression is it not? Any thoughts anyone?

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How ambitious were you as a JW?

by OnTheWayOut in

alltimejeff got me thinking about this.

he was very ambitious as a young jw, .

things changed as he wised up.

dh

I got to No. 4 talks and microphones, then I got 'counselled' and demoted, lol, then shortly after that I left because of the demons. I was 18ish.

Forgot to add, I also aux pioneered twice and falsified the hours both times like all good pioneers do.

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Did Adam really Rebel?

by zack in

the wts teaches that adam's sin was rebellion against his creator.

it seems that all adam did was make a choice.

if he ate of the tree he would die.

dh

Do you believe that story is actually something that really happened?

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Why Did Jesus Not Write Anything ?

by choosing life in

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friends

have you ever wondered why jesus did not put anything in writing?

he was here to explain his father to us and teach us how to gain salvation.

wouldn't it have been a good thing to write his instructions down, rather than leave it up to others many years later?

dh

Aren't the Catholic Church hiding a Gospel written by Jesus in the first person? I think that was one of the things that came up before the end credits on the movie Stigmata, no? It would make sense that he would have written things down.

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What is marital rape?

by Lady Lee in

i had never heard of this term until i was divorced for many years.

the term "marital rape" confused me as i am sure it confused others.. but i knew what it was.

i knew how it felt.

dh

i confess i didn't read the whole post to realise the topic was just aimed at women! oops, my bad

hey FBF long time no see ;)