heh, actually at memorial the elder that was giving the talk was describing Jesus and said that he most likely had a beard. i just wanted to throw my books at him.
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How many rules are there??
by beaker in.
the ancient isrealites had about 600 rules in the mosaic law which they had to keep.. i reckon that jw's are expected to keep more rules than that.. what's your favourite??.
to start off how about...... you must not have a beard.
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Implied Teachings of the BORG
by Larry ini use to think that the '1975 end of the world' thing was implied.
when i a faithful jdummy, i recall telling the householders that.
members of the org implied that, but not the org - of course i was wrong, not only did they imply it, they taught - from the top on down.
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...i wasn't alive then, but Rutherford wrote "Children" and told kids it was bad to have sex and start a family because they were just going to die....................
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Misconceptions of the GB
by Larry inwhat was your misconceptions about the gb?
here was one of mine, when folks would ask me why wasn't their any blacks on the gb.
i would say that the blacks weren't educated enough at the time (late 1800's - early 1900's) to govern a worldwide organization.
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dustyb
biggest misconception of all is that the GB are both faithful and wise. another one........they're educated and know what they're talkign about. another misconception is that the GB and faithful and wise write everything...... i could keep on going.
where did you actually hear that european's still celebrate christmas, beccause i've never heard that one.
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Do you have "Will" leaving your estate to the WTB&TS
by Nadsam in.
do you have will ?...do you really intend to leave it to some swine pedophile loving cult.. .
nadsam...your friendly neighborhood apostate.
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heh, speakin of that, i tihkn i'm goin to take a huge shit in a box and mail it to the WTS. matter of fact, all of us should do that as an April Fools prank =D
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A lot of new people lately
by Elsewhere in.
is it just me or has the last six months or so brought in a very large number of new users?
simon, are there any stats to show if this is true or not?.
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dustyb
as my circuit overseer brother holmes said, "The youth are running out on the truth, and one reason is because of the Internet"...... more and more people's leaving. actually the weekday meetings in both circuits around here are dropping 4-6% in attendance. and i live in the bible belt.
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To Partake or Not to Partake THAT IS THE QUESTION!
by etan 4 U into partake or not to partake that is the question!
i need some questions answered maybe you all can help.
is it because they wish to be of an earthly resurection?
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dustyb
Jehovah's Witness are a lukewarm Christian/Jewish religion. They aren't true Christians, but they aren't true Jews either......
personally i want to sip on the wine this year, just to make someone laugh and other people mad. i think it'll be funny.
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Taking responsibility for your actions
by dustyb insomething i realized this weekend at the circuit assembly...there are too many people that blame jehover (tm) for how they grew up, or blame satan for all the problems of the world.
why can't everyone just grow some balls and take responsibilities for their own actions?
something that i always read on this forums is frankiespeakin's threads on how jehover (tm) is a false god or doesn't exist, or solely created people to piss on.
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dustyb
You cant take the blame for everything that goes wrong in your life. I believe people can change their lives for the best and make differences, but if I blamed myself for everything that went wrong over the coarse of 12 yearsof being in the troof, then i would be more depressed than I turned out to be.
i know you can't blame everyone or yourself, but its not Jehover's problem it happened. its the stupid quacks (WTS in this case) that you were sexually abused. it was their problem, because they don't fix it. i just found out 2 more of my friends that are girls were molsested this past weekend, but i don't blame Jehover. i know that they couldn't find a different way, but sometimes its just up for the other people, such as the parents or guardians to take responsibility. and when they don't, you have to find ways. and some people find the wrong way, such as blaming others for their own actions.
It also stinks to me that most JW's blame everything on Satan, or give credit to Jehovah when the law of averages causes them to place a stupid Watchtower at a door. In doing such things, perhaps we are giving to much of our own god-given power away.
and i do know that as a JW, we didn't have a choice. "Everything good should be accredited to Jehover and everything bad should be blamed on Satan the Devil." I have always heard that, and i still hear that everywhere when i go to meetings and assemblies. i do understand that everyone here has their own circumstances too. shit happens, and a lot of people (especially JW's) can't do anything about it, because they don't know. they were deprived, or stripped of that skill of reasoning and such.
All in all, all of us here did make one decision based upon ourselves, to join this forum and help each other out. we've also chosen to help each other gain back this skill of taking the responsibilities that we need, and pointing fingers with the right amount of evidence and education. i no longer point the fingers at the elders, and i no longer point fingers at the congregation. i point my fingers at old men who think that they are the key because theya re stubborn and didn't have a life before they crept into the "truth". and beacuse they think they hold the key, they have to destroy everyone else by making slaves out of them, thus stripping its members of the responsibilities of thought and thinking for ones-self.
i also see this as a problem for the kids who do get molested. they are told over and over that there is NO other way, they are right, so take the finger in the butt, maybe play "santa claus" naked. but thats where this comes in, the ELDERS/MOLESTERS need to take responsibility for their own actions. i remember one of the sick bastards here (that i just learned about) was an elder, and he thought it was a good idea to molest his step-daughter. it was awhile ago, but he said that "satan" made him do it, thus he was thought to be repentful, was stripped of his responsibilities and disfellowshipped for a little while, but was reinstated. no jail time or anything. so who needs to be responsible for his own actions? him? the other elders? the society? or how about all three?
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Taking responsibility for your actions
by dustyb insomething i realized this weekend at the circuit assembly...there are too many people that blame jehover (tm) for how they grew up, or blame satan for all the problems of the world.
why can't everyone just grow some balls and take responsibilities for their own actions?
something that i always read on this forums is frankiespeakin's threads on how jehover (tm) is a false god or doesn't exist, or solely created people to piss on.
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dustyb
something i realized this weekend at the circuit assembly...there are too many people that blame Jehover (tm) for how they grew up, or blame satan for all the problems of the world. why can't everyone just grow some balls and take responsibilities for their own actions? something that i always read on this forums is frankiespeakin's threads on how Jehover (tm) is a false god or doesn't exist, or solely created people to piss on. then i hear other people IRL (in real life) blame everything wrong on satan. "Sorry i had sex with a 10 year old step-daughter, satan made me do it." i know everyone says "thank god" or something when something good happens, but i just find it irresponsible to not claim your own actions if they are bad. quit blaming figments of your imagination and take responsibility up for yourselves. if you think "Jehover" is a myth, then quit blaming him for your shitty life and do somthing about it.....
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How have you changed since finding this forum?
by happehanna in.
my friends and daughters say that i am more relaxed and i seem happier in my own skin.
which is just great, but when i first started reading stuff here i was a quivering mess, i was in shock, but spending more time researching things are now slotting into place.. .
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dustyb
........i'm still the same ole' questioning smartass kid that started asking back in the day =D but i am more open in supporting everyone in their actions.....
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PLEASE HELP! Assist in 1914 Rebuttal...
by Jared inok, so i'm trying to just plant a tiny seed of doubt somewhere in the cracks of my mothers mind, but that woman has 'jehovah' tattooed on her chest!
anyway, i would not only like help for her benefit but also for my benefit.
so it all started when i questioned her about 1914.... i wrote to her: 'as you had suggested i wanted to do some research.
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And, look here: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/55372/1.ashx
blessing in disquise! also the www.disfellowshipped.com/607eng.htm rocked my boxers. its all i need for sunday ty ty ty ty ty. talk about the right food at the right time =D