Posts by Puternut

Venting is good.You are not alone, I hope you can find solice in that fact. I understand how you feel. I don't pray either. I wouldn't know who to. It doesn't matter. You will find your comfort spot in life soon. Take your time and don't feel guilty about what others do. Each needs to decide that for themselves. I find my solice in nature, and the open sea. You will find yours somewhere too.

Thinking about you,

Puternut

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Today is another day on your way to freedom.

by Puternut in

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friends

i know we are all mostly in the same boat.

we come here and talk about our experience with the wt.

vent, cry, laugh, poke fun at each other.

Puternut

I know we are all mostly in the same boat. We come here and talk about our experience with the WT. Vent, cry, laugh, poke fun at each other. And it's all a way of healling from what we have gone through. Keep on healing. Some are faders, some are da'd and some are df'd. It doesn't matter where you are at this point in your life.

Today is yet another day away from your past, and you have learned from it. So just remember that you are moving on in your life, and therefore you should be proud of yourself . So give yourself a pat on the back, embrace the new day, smile, and stand tall. You are all unique and deserve the best.

Puternut

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Calling on all of you for support and prayers or energy for me!

by Sunnygal41 in

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hi, everyone.................well, the shite has finally hit the fan...........i'm meeting with the superintendent, head of personnel and my boss today at 1:00 over the "comment/incident" of february 25, 2004. i will have union representation with me........my union steward and the president of the union.

the comment was personally inappropriate and i'm sorry it ever came out of my mouth.

the only defense i have is that i was angry at the time and stressed with some heavy personal stuff.

Puternut

Terri,

I am sorry to hear that you said something for which you are being called on the carpet. (*smack) But we are all humans, and some times we have a lot on our plate, and things come out of our mouths that we later regret. I know I have done my share of it too (*smack myself) The only thing we can do is to say; I am sorry, I wasn't thinking. Sometimes that fixes things, sometimes not. If we only could go back in time and fix it. My thoughts will be with you, and I hope that all will work out. I know it might not relieve you of your troubles, and perhaps things might change for you. But we all learn from it, and hopefully don't repeat what we did. It's a mistake we ALL make, and hopefully you can appeal your circumstances to them. You are a valuable person.

All the best today,

Puternut

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memory loss!!!!

by somebody in

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does nayone happen to have reference to the article that the wts basically told it's adherents not to view fellow jws who obtained a "scriptural divorce" back in the years that the elders policed the marriage bed of jws?

what i mean is that jws back in the days of the say.... 60s and 70s... approx.

, who wanted to do what was right in the eyes of the society god sought divorces over certain sexual relations with their marriage partners if their partners wished to be stimulated in certain ways the society god did not apporove of back then between a married couple's private realationship.. .

Puternut

Somebody,

If I get what you are asking about, yes there was a time when that was the case. It has been a long time ago, so I don't have a reference for you anymore. I let go off all the WT publications. But having been an elder, I know that the WT has changed their views on that, and I do recall an article, that mentioned that those who were df'd for that to remain in that state, since the committees acted on the guidance from the Society at that time.

The article also mentioned that henceforth, one could not be df'd on those grounds anymore and the view on pornea was changed. In essence they had loosened their view on some of these matters. They didn't condone those practices, but would not police anymore in the affairs of the marital arrangements. Some sex practices, that the WT is familiar with, are not considered clean acts. And no one is to enforce this upon the other mate without consent, and could be disciplined for this, if the knowlege of this was widely known.

So the bottom line is, that it's up to the marriage mates to keep the marriage bed clean. And yet the elders would not police in these matters any further. In other words, don't promote what you do. Keep you mouth shut, and don't let others know what you do behind closed doors, if this is agreeable with your partner.

Puternut

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How do you know when you?ve put the Watchtower behind you?

by Steve Lowry in

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it takes time (usually several years for most folks), to attain a certain level of inner peace about leaving the watchtower society and all its psychological baggage.

it?s a process we all go/grow through and just because you haven?t attained the perfect balance yet doesn?t preclude you from enjoying the success that you have attained, so far.

anyway here are a few i thought of myself.

Puternut

It has been likened to spiritual rape. You may never be able to put it behind you. The things is, will you move on in life? It's a scar that stays with you. But you need to know that you have learned from this experience. And so, you are now careful as to wether you will join an other faith, or remain as you are. People who are physically raped, can move on in life, though the scar from that experience will stay in their minds. If you decide to let these things bother you for the rest of your lives, you are in essence letting them still have control over you. This all takes time to sort through. And it is painful, but in time these scars WILL heal. You can be strong and have a full life without the WT.

Puternut

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Phone / Email Relationships

by Nosferatu in

okay, my turn!.

so, you met this hottie online, and got her email address.

you're thinking, "wow!

Puternut

Nos,

I agree with you. Time is important. Once you meet someone through this means of communication, (email, phone), you owe it to yourself to see if the one you are interested in is the same in real life. No one purposely is a different person, online or on the phone, but it seems that since there is no face to face, things can be said differently or understood differently. The reason I think is, that we cannot see the expression on their face when they say something in printed form. So sometimes you get a response and wonder what they mean by that.

Yes I agree don't let too much time go by, before you meet them in person. Everyone wants to impress the other person, and so online what you'll see on a pic is something that could also be different in person. What if she's taller than she said she was, or what if she has a bigger smile than you'd expected. (trying to be tactful here). As you mentioned, the communication will be different also. We don't type as fast as we can speak. At least when you meet face to face, you have more to talk about when you go back online later. The person becomes more real to you.

Puternut

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